your logic is no match for the emotional dispositions of the non-experts

You open this thread with the promise of facts and then jump straight into speculation... which the testing done by Musta Tornius would suggest to be incorrect.



Check the link to see that the ranges on ARs differ as well.

I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusions... but I'm curious which of the claims regarding the laser range is correct.

A couple of facts to add doc

1 Laser has no recoil - AR does and also has build up recoil the longer you hold R1
2 Laser has 100% accuracy - AR has accuracy and bullet spread
3 Laser takes advantage of the broken damage mods (ccp always takes like 5 months to fix anything)
4 Lasers increase damage over time of holding R1 - AR has consistant damage (holding R1 just increases recoil)
5 Movement while firing a laser doesn't decrease its accuracy - Moving while using an AR decreases its accuracy and increaes bullet spread.

To add to the discussion

Laser has an optimal range with fall off on either side. It was never intended to be a close range weapon. Trying to say that its bad at close range so its already nerfed is lame. No on argues that snipers at close range are really hard to use so the damage/sway/ROF should be uber good.

Back to the damage mod issue. Lasers are like snipers as they are normally not in the direct line of fire. To be specific when on my laser alt I use an A series assualt with damage mods in highs and smg. I will use smg (notice i could give a **** that laser is weak up close) till i get to my spot and drop hives. Then switch to laser and melt face. Since I dont have to worry about moving around and engaging players in CQC I can always go gank fit suits. The amount of damage and accuracy a laser can do is devastating.

I have been on the other side of this last build. I was in fully buffed b series assualt suits with close to 760 ehp. I watch an imperfect alt with laser pick off 2 people and thought I could sneak out and take him down. I got a laser accross my head and was dead instantly. Whoops.

I would like the laser mechanics to be reworked especialy the lame skill bonuses. Is a laser OP? Yes it is to me.

i skimmed over most other people's posts so this may have been asked alread; but judging from your first post, you sound really PRO-AR.. and if that's the case, why do you use the LR in pub matches? -a weapon you say is so erroneous. (i've played against you and a squad of other imps several times before) just curious. if i knew a weapon was flawed so hard, i wouldn't continue to use it.


edit; i guess you've probably skilled into LR and are waiting for CCP to fix it?

If war were arithmetic, the mathematicians would rule the world.

The reason the LR is so good is because it does huge damage at ranges the AR struggles to do damage at. It's also far easier to aim than an AR, both due to the zoom, and due to it having no kick/dispersion, which further moves the balance in its favour. The reality of the situation is that, when someone who knows how to use a LR gets to using one, he can kill an AR user in seconds without any serious threat to himself.



It isn't in heavy use because it's situational. You can't use it effectively at close ranges, which limits your ability to fight in certain areas. It absolutely destroys people in the areas it's useful in, but kinda sucks if you're running around amidst buildings or rough terrain or whatever. Most people clearly prefer to use the AR, as it's a gun that is useful pretty much all the time. Doesn't mean it's balanced, just means that the still very respectable power of ARs and their versatility is more attractive than the higher power but less versatility of LRs.