People will say if you are using expensive gear that should you are running the risk of losing it in favor or doing better and getting paid more or something like that. Right now it's not true at all, if you do a public match from start to finish you will get somewhere in the ball park of 200,000 ISK regardless of how good you did. If you do really good you may get around 300,000 but if you die once or twice it doesn't matter. Not worth the risk at all.

And corporation matches are all a waste of ISK for bragging rights. I see people run protosuits fully geared up, costing at least 100,000 ISK a pop. The most pay out you get is 900,000 ISK, so collectively die 9 times and there is no profit to be gained, if the corp was in it for the ISK they'd just have their 8 guys go militia gear in public matches and get 8 x 200,000 ISK = 1,600,000 ISK in the same amount of time.


It is assumed CCP will have better ways to get ISK later on.

this isn't true at all, the payouts seem pretty static no matter how good or bad you do, the average is between 200k and 300k you can easily die 5 times in a match if you are in the thick of it, so if your suit is like 40k isk you are lucky to make profit, let alone dieing more than that which can easily happy, or use a vehicle. I think it will be better in the future but as it stands using things like vehicles or expensive suits

the big reason this is a problem is it creates a sense of " well we are screwed, might as well only use start fits" when you are in a losing battle. it also creates a divide between the has, and has not's and the group vs. solo's. I know eve players are against all 3 principles but in a shooter it doesn't work well, let alone a game like this. CCP needs to put the individual player's interest first in this case, or this game will end up being a few corps that always fight each other.

First thing they need is playlist for solo players and groups, solo players can join the group games but groups can't join the solo variants.

next they need to give more isk for how good you do, more should be given for certain actions, or it should be based on how much isk damage you dealt or repaired, healing someone in a heavy suit should give you a good amount of isk vs killing someone in milita gear. hacked points should deal damage and grant isk by a team, maybe even down to the squad level effort, (players in 1 man squads it diverts to team based).

also, possibly a complete revamp of the salvage system, currently you are lucky to get 1 thing, most i've gotten was 3, when the market comes I suspect loot from battles will be a great money maker meaning more expensive stuff for all (and thus better loot maybe?) the more isk in damage done the better the loot should be, I think not only should the standard random loot from the master loot table be distributed but something like 30% of all stuff lost be given out 20% to the winners 10% to losers.

So explain to me days before the reset why guys were getting over 1M isk for a match... maybe it had to do with the giant amount of expensive loss.

People will say if you are using expensive gear that should you are running the risk of losing it in favor or doing better and getting paid more or something like that. Right now it's not true at all, if you do a public match from start to finish you will get somewhere in the ball park of 200,000 ISK regardless of how good you did. If you do really good you may get around 300,000 but if you die once or twice it doesn't matter. Not worth the risk at all.

And corporation matches are all a waste of ISK for bragging rights. I see people run protosuits fully geared up, costing at least 100,000 ISK a pop. The most pay out you get is 900,000 ISK, so collectively die 9 times and there is no profit to be gained, if the corp was in it for the ISK they'd just have their 8 guys go militia gear in public matches and get 8 x 200,000 ISK = 1,600,000 ISK in the same amount of time.


It is assumed CCP will have better ways to get ISK later on.

Actually it's quite the opposite. Using militia gear will get you out of any of the bad habits that you might be able to get away with using better gear. If you can learn to be good with militia gear, you do a lot better when you switch to advanced and prototype gear.

Dying is a bad habit and I doubt you have the skill to lecture me on anything in this game.