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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:23:00 -
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First:
It's a game. It's pointless to play it. So saying it's pointless to play skirmish when you can get the same SP in less time playing ambush is a hilarious nonsense statement.
What... you are wanting to be more efficient at.... accomplishing nothing?  You play games for fun. If you don't want to play for fun, then why do you play? It's called "playing" for a reason.
Play: a term employed in psychology and ethology to describe a range of voluntary, intrinsically motivated activities normally associated with recreational pleasure and enjoyment.
And for those who don't know what intrinsic motivation is:
Intrinsic motivation: motivation that is driven by an interest or enjoyment in the task itself, and exists within the individual rather than relying on external pressures or a desire for reward.
Second:
Listen to yourselves crying over how BADLY you are being mistreated.
"I get no extra stuff for doing something I WANT to do?! What is wrong with the world! Woe is me! All alone, getting no extra SP for playing longer matches than others just because I enjoy the longer matches more..."
Feeling this entitled over something that doesn't in anyway affect you IRL other than sucking up hours of your life you could be spending doing literally ANYTHING else is, by and large, the most pathetic thing I can possibly think of.
Lastly:
All this blubbering is over a temporary system that is in place. Once the global cap comes out there will be no more of this 1WP=1SP, it will be a global cap you can reach increased each week by the weekly cap resetting. How about you enjoy the extra SP you are getting now while you can, because very soon you will be SOL.
So, enjoy spitting those HTFU comments now while you can, your turn to HTFU is coming VERY soon... |
Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:53:00 -
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Already explained in the post. Have fun ignoring reality when it doesn't suit you though, you are apparently a true expert at it.
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:07:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:First:It's a game. It's pointless to play it. So saying it's pointless to play skirmish when you can get the same SP in less time playing ambush is a hilarious nonsense statement. What... you are wanting to be more efficient at.... accomplishing nothing? You play games for fun. If you don't want to play for fun, then why do you play? It's called "playing" for a reason. Play: a term employed in psychology and ethology to describe a range of voluntary, intrinsically motivated activities normally associated with recreational pleasure and enjoyment.And for those who don't know what intrinsic motivation is: Intrinsic motivation: motivation that is driven by an interest or enjoyment in the task itself, and exists within the individual rather than relying on external pressures or a desire for reward. Second:Listen to yourselves crying over how BADLY you are being mistreated. "I get no extra stuff for doing something I WANT to do?! What is wrong with the world! Woe is me! All alone, getting no extra SP for playing longer matches than others just because I enjoy the longer matches more..." Feeling this entitled over something that doesn't in anyway affect you IRL other than sucking up hours of your life you could be spending doing literally ANYTHING else is, by and large, the most pathetic thing I can possibly think of. Lastly:All this blubbering is over a temporary system that is in place. Once the global cap comes out there will be no more of this 1WP=1SP, it will be a global cap you can reach increased each week by the weekly cap resetting. How about you enjoy the extra SP you are getting now while you can, because very soon you will be SOL. So, enjoy spitting those HTFU comments now while you can, your turn to HTFU is coming VERY soon... Please let us have our tanks back and AV re nerfed. By your logic, your still playing for fun and enjoyment right? Yay tanks on their way back!
Broken gameplay vs. functional reward system. Improper comparison as they are totally unrelated. Nice try though. |
Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:15:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:First:It's a game. It's pointless to play it. So saying it's pointless to play skirmish when you can get the same SP in less time playing ambush is a hilarious nonsense statement. What... you are wanting to be more efficient at.... accomplishing nothing? You play games for fun. If you don't want to play for fun, then why do you play? It's called "playing" for a reason. Play: a term employed in psychology and ethology to describe a range of voluntary, intrinsically motivated activities normally associated with recreational pleasure and enjoyment.And for those who don't know what intrinsic motivation is: Intrinsic motivation: motivation that is driven by an interest or enjoyment in the task itself, and exists within the individual rather than relying on external pressures or a desire for reward. Second:Listen to yourselves crying over how BADLY you are being mistreated. "I get no extra stuff for doing something I WANT to do?! What is wrong with the world! Woe is me! All alone, getting no extra SP for playing longer matches than others just because I enjoy the longer matches more..." Feeling this entitled over something that doesn't in anyway affect you IRL other than sucking up hours of your life you could be spending doing literally ANYTHING else is, by and large, the most pathetic thing I can possibly think of. Lastly:All this blubbering is over a temporary system that is in place. Once the global cap comes out there will be no more of this 1WP=1SP, it will be a global cap you can reach increased each week by the weekly cap resetting. How about you enjoy the extra SP you are getting now while you can, because very soon you will be SOL. So, enjoy spitting those HTFU comments now while you can, your turn to HTFU is coming VERY soon... Please let us have our tanks back and AV re nerfed. By your logic, your still playing for fun and enjoyment right? Yay tanks on their way back! Broken gameplay vs. functional reward system. Improper comparison as they are totally unrelated. Nice try though. At least I gave it a shot.
Indeed. +1 for effort. ^_^ |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:22:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:First:It's a game. It's pointless to play it. So saying it's pointless to play skirmish when you can get the same SP in less time playing ambush is a hilarious nonsense statement. What... you are wanting to be more efficient at.... accomplishing nothing? You play games for fun. If you don't want to play for fun, then why do you play? It's called "playing" for a reason. Play: a term employed in psychology and ethology to describe a range of voluntary, intrinsically motivated activities normally associated with recreational pleasure and enjoyment.And for those who don't know what intrinsic motivation is: Intrinsic motivation: motivation that is driven by an interest or enjoyment in the task itself, and exists within the individual rather than relying on external pressures or a desire for reward. Second:Listen to yourselves crying over how BADLY you are being mistreated. "I get no extra stuff for doing something I WANT to do?! What is wrong with the world! Woe is me! All alone, getting no extra SP for playing longer matches than others just because I enjoy the longer matches more..." Feeling this entitled over something that doesn't in anyway affect you IRL other than sucking up hours of your life you could be spending doing literally ANYTHING else is, by and large, the most pathetic thing I can possibly think of. Lastly:All this blubbering is over a temporary system that is in place. Once the global cap comes out there will be no more of this 1WP=1SP, it will be a global cap you can reach increased each week by the weekly cap resetting. How about you enjoy the extra SP you are getting now while you can, because very soon you will be SOL. So, enjoy spitting those HTFU comments now while you can, your turn to HTFU is coming VERY soon... So we spreading rumors about sp systems? It will be no cap in a month or two and sp means nothing cause FW actually works but until than enjoy the spankings I hand out daily 
There will be a cap. So said CCP
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:We would like to remind you that these changes do not represent the final skill point system and that we are still working hard on getting to the fully polished rollover system later on.
If there is a roll over system, that means there is a cap. Otherwise there would be nothing to roll over. And if the points roll over infinitely from either the time of character creation or the beginning of the beta, that's a limited global cap/unlimited global cap. As for the global cap being implemented, that part IS hopeful speculation, but the roll over IS confirmed. Thank you, good night. |
Baal Omniscient
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Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.11 10:10:00 -
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GetShotUp wrote:ISuperstar wrote:GetShotUp wrote:
Its kinda sad to see a bunch of grown ass men lose their life on this. When I was a teen, I lost my life on certain games, but I was a teen. I had no real responsibility, but as a man now that has a wife, step son and one of my own on the way AND bills, I CAN'T play as much even if I wanted to. Do these men have wives/girlfriends? Kids? job? Anything?
lol You must be new here. Let me fill you in, these guys you're refering to, for them Dust 514 fills each one of those roles you mentioned. It is their way of life. I'm realizing this the more I roam these forums
Don't talk about me like that.... |
Baal Omniscient
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Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.11 14:35:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Rollover refers to the bonus SP before you hit the 1WP=1SP default. Limiting bonuses is not the same as negating every action after the first 5 minutes of the match.
SP caps hurt the casuals more. This is a fact and I have proof. Unlike people who throw around HTFU without understanding the true meaning, I am concerned about the long term outlook of this game. We want new players 1 year from now and even 5 years from now. The SP system should be discussed on the assumption that once finalized and we leave beta, it will be consistent.
Noc, I DO think you should get more SP for playing Skirmish. The only way to do this without hurting the cap however is to separate the SP calculation for time away from your SP calculation for WP and add it to your total SP AFTER all other SP are calculated for the match.
This way you are compensated for longer play times in longer matches. It might also help if a time based SP multiplier kicks in after a set amount of time has gone by (say 10-15 minutes for example), that way you get more SP for those long haul matches while still keeping the cap limited.
In fact, I think I'm going to go post that in a new thread so that the topic can get the direct attention it needs to be properly discussed.
Thank you for your always level-headed, true to the topic comments. It's always nice to have some actual valid arguments to bounce ideas against. |
Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:03:00 -
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Noc, my new thread on the matter is up, if you are interested in reading it.
Happy hunting everyone. |
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