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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:14:00 -
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Laser rifle is probably overpowered because of how good it is within its niche. It evaporates enemies in a couple seconds. Plus, no recoil, so it's easy to use. You can kill one or two guys in a single magazine before overheating, as well.
People like to pretend that simply recognizing that laser rifles are weak up close means that you can beat someone with an LR, but the reality is that any competent LR user will be someplace where the path to them is open ground, and/or make sure they have allies in front of them. As well, if they engage you at range, you will die long before you can get in close to them. Similar to snipers, the only real counter to laser rifles is another laser rifle, as everything else is out-ranged and will die before it manages to get within range. Personally, I think the laser rifle should overheat faster. Heat management needs to be a bigger thing. Being a powerful ranged weapon is cool, but it should be more about relatively short bursts of fire, rather than continuous streams for extended periods.
On the other hand, HMG isn't as dominating up close as laser rifles are at range. You can actually fight back against HMGs fairly well. Maybe HMGs are too good at longer ranges (they seriously can do a fair bit of damage at longer ranges) but I think they're fine up close. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:08:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:LOL. so how many people should I be able to kill with my proto type clip. 1 or 2 people is too many?
Do you realize how many people one can kill with a clip of AR. or clip of shotgun? Wow, do you proofread and realize what you are asking?
Killing a couple people at max range without needing to reload is probably excessive, yes. When you're effective outside the range at which anything but other LRs and sniper rifles can engage you, that in itself is a pretty big advantage. Should you also be able to just hold down the button and kill a couple people with no real threat to yourself? I don't think so. I think, like sniper rifles, the damage of LRs should still be good, but it shouldn't have such a huge killing potential in a short period of time at long ranges.
And no, I don't actually proof read my posts, thanks for asking. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 20:09:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:The laser is only an alpha weapon after it has charged for about 40 rounds....that is not a big window for killing, plus it is all Estimation of range for the laser, can I hit him? U must shoot to even see if you can and that giant flashlight isn't good for your own survival . A duvoulle can kill 2 people easy with one clip. And will kill the first person faster then the laser...the laser will kill the second quicker because of the heat build up.
Having range is very deceptive because the more you push the range the less effective you are up close, which changes the gameplay entirely. An Ar with more range does the same dmg throughout, the added fangs has no adverse effect while the laser suffers for putting points into a skill.
You do damage with those 40 rounds. Even with no damage mods and LR Ops 1 I can kill a couple assaults in a single LR mag. Maybe three if they're all lined up nicely.
As for estimating range, as with every other weapon in the game, if you're in range your reticule will turn red and your Efficiency will go from 0% to whatever%. You don't need to waste ammo on that.
High tier ARs can kill a couple people in one mag, but you need to be at close range and relatively accurate. You also need to avoid being killed by the people you're trying to shoot. The difference is that LRs out-range almost everything else, so you can do your damage without any serious risk to yourself. |
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Posted - 2013.02.10 01:56:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:heres a few thoughts of my own on the laser rifle, EVERY GUN IN THIS GAME CAN KILL TWO OR MORE PEOPLE WITHIN ONE OF ITS CLIPS. other then that, if an LR guy is good at keeping his distance, you need only call an LAV in to close the gap, if thats too much to be worth it, then he must not be doing anything too special. I mean theres only two places i know of in the game that an LR guy can post up on and be almost completely safe, and those two spots have disadvantages too. So really i dont think its overpowered at all.
as far as HMG's go, if my toxin smg can beat a majority of them then i think there fine where they are.
Jesus the need to go into exhaustive detail with you people. FROM LONG RANGE IT CAN EASILY KILL MULTIPLE PEOPLE WITHOUT RELOADING. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN KILLING A COUPLE PEOPLE UP CLOSE WHILE AVOIDING BEING KILLED YOURSELF. For the love of Allah please don't try to draw false equivalencies between just any old gun in any old circumstances herp derp and LRs at the range and under the circumstances they're typically used. I know oversimplifying things and setting up stupid strawman arguments is the only thing you can muster to defend LRs, but it gets old seeing it. |
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