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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:42:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:McFurious wrote:Oh noes. Did I kill you from across the map? While you were trying to snipe me from across the map? So sorry bro. fail troll is fail. i dont snipe, i might use Tac AR, but i dont snipe, now kindly go away, i want actual constructive ideas here
Mass driver is fine as is, have you tried getting a kill from across the map? You must have been standing still, because for 1 you have to judge grenade drop from the distance, and if someone is moving, you have to judge distance and how far they will be in the time it takes for your grenade to get there.
Try it sometime. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:58:00 -
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McFurious wrote:Rachoi wrote:McFurious wrote:Oh noes. Did I kill you from across the map? While you were trying to snipe me from across the map? So sorry bro. fail troll is fail. i dont snipe, i might use Tac AR, but i dont snipe, now kindly go away, i want actual constructive ideas here Ok. If I can hit you with a slow moving grenade that flies at an arc from across the map, you deserve to die and I deserve the kill.
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:13:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:McFurious wrote:Rachoi wrote:McFurious wrote:Oh noes. Did I kill you from across the map? While you were trying to snipe me from across the map? So sorry bro. fail troll is fail. i dont snipe, i might use Tac AR, but i dont snipe, now kindly go away, i want actual constructive ideas here Ok. If I can hit you with a slow moving grenade that flies at an arc from across the map, you deserve to die and I deserve the kill. So true. so.. you actually believed my exageration? oh man... no wonder things never get done. i have said i dont snipe, and i mean it. as for standing still, how the heck else am i going to look around for possible ambushes? i dont like to blind charge into a fight unless i know its the only place anything is happening and i have been sitting playing guard dog for half the match. or i'm in cover trying to reload and let my sheilds/armor return a bit before i dive back in. no, i have been nailed my MDs in places where the only way to actually hit me was straight above me, and there isnt a platform above to stand on. and i'm not saying reduce the power, i'm saying just tweak the arc/able flight distance. they should lose a bit of momentum flying through the air.
And, no.
Again working as intended.
If you die behind cover find better cover.
You know how many times I've died to date from build 1 from a mass driver? I keep count
3 times... wow so OP
You know how many newberrys I've killed with my MD?
I lost count. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:23:00 -
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Have you ever seen a dev tweak something?
Since your a Newberry I'll play nice.
Have you seen those big nasty missile turrets? How lame they are? How they can't even scratch an ARMOR tanks shields?
Believe it or not before they we're tweaked, they we're the most used and one of the most useful weapons on the battlefield.
Now? They just need to be removed from the game they're so silly.
CCP does not tweak, remember that.
They drop a Nerf hammer and make it useless so they can move on.
Yes I'm a jerk, and sorry I am on all things that have the word tweak in it, especially when the weapon has had balance checks which we said each one in posts above.
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Posted - 2013.02.09 06:09:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Mass driver is an indirect fire weapon, thats why it killed you. It is meant as an arcing lobber. if you got killed behind cover it means the MD gunner was a.genius and he had a spotter telling him where you are. functionally artillery in game.
second if.a.mass driver round explodes nearby wise people dive for cover, as they believe the next one will land on your head.
also a sh**-hot gunner can predict the angle by where you are on his radar. the mass driver, when wielded by a ballistic genius (genius of any kind is rare in a dust battlefield) will be a holy terror.
someone got a lucky shot and you were sitting still. working as intended.
further. I Can sit on one side of a wall, lob rounds almost straight up and nail the bastard on the other side. its kinda what grenade launchers do.
and I am willing to bet money you havent got a clue how they work. skill up and give em a go. Most people hate the MD because its not as easy to use as they think.
this will be my only nice post in this thread. fair warning.
:) hug,
Ya the MD takes alto of practice, and its not something you can pick up and be OP with.
Even just give the level 1 a try.
I personally began to enjoy them after several dedicated matches using them. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 06:13:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Mass driver is an indirect fire weapon, thats why it killed you. It is meant as an arcing lobber. if you got killed behind cover it means the MD gunner was a.genius and he had a spotter telling him where you are. functionally artillery in game.
second if.a.mass driver round explodes nearby wise people dive for cover, as they believe the next one will land on your head.
also a sh**-hot gunner can predict the angle by where you are on his radar. the mass driver, when wielded by a ballistic genius (genius of any kind is rare in a dust battlefield) will be a holy terror.
someone got a lucky shot and you were sitting still. working as intended.
further. I Can sit on one side of a wall, lob rounds almost straight up and nail the bastard on the other side. its kinda what grenade launchers do.
and I am willing to bet money you havent got a clue how they work. skill up and give em a go. Most people hate the MD because its not as easy to use as they think.
this will be my only nice post in this thread. fair warning. why does everyone think i hate the MD? seriously, i'm suggesting a tweak, not a nerf. if someone was playing mortar man when i was in cover, nicely done, is someone was on the other side of the wall... i'd prefered if they shot me with a pistol instead. i've met MD users on both sides, so i am jsut hoping for a tweak. please stop thinking this is me 'hating' on it, stop thinking i want it nerfed. the power can stay, the range is all i want fiddled with, okay?
Bro, I know what your saying, but your not listening,
If you tweak the range you break the gun.
After that post, breakn' stuff is going to be all over this......he did warn you after all.
And they were playing mortar. lol I don't think its even possible to stand on the other side of the wall that your on and shoot the MD in anyway that's going to wall hop and kill you.
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Posted - 2013.02.09 06:22:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Rachoi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Mass driver is an indirect fire weapon, thats why it killed you. It is meant as an arcing lobber. if you got killed behind cover it means the MD gunner was a.genius and he had a spotter telling him where you are. functionally artillery in game.
second if.a.mass driver round explodes nearby wise people dive for cover, as they believe the next one will land on your head.
also a sh**-hot gunner can predict the angle by where you are on his radar. the mass driver, when wielded by a ballistic genius (genius of any kind is rare in a dust battlefield) will be a holy terror.
someone got a lucky shot and you were sitting still. working as intended.
further. I Can sit on one side of a wall, lob rounds almost straight up and nail the bastard on the other side. its kinda what grenade launchers do.
and I am willing to bet money you havent got a clue how they work. skill up and give em a go. Most people hate the MD because its not as easy to use as they think.
this will be my only nice post in this thread. fair warning. why does everyone think i hate the MD? seriously, i'm suggesting a tweak, not a nerf. if someone was playing mortar man when i was in cover, nicely done, is someone was on the other side of the wall... i'd prefered if they shot me with a pistol instead. i've met MD users on both sides, so i am jsut hoping for a tweak. please stop thinking this is me 'hating' on it, stop thinking i want it nerfed. the power can stay, the range is all i want fiddled with, okay? Bro, I know what your saying, but your not listening, If you tweak the range you break the gun. After that post, breakn' stuff is going to be all over this......he did warn you after all. And they were playing mortar. lol I don't think its even possible to stand on the other side of the wall that your on and shoot the MD in anyway that's going to wall hop and kill you. how does giving a momentum fall off like a thrown grenade break it? i want to know the real answer to this one. i mean... anything launched can only fly so far before air friction grabs it
It takes a long time to reach a target in the distance.
Eventually for range it will simply arc all the way down and die.
This is 1000's of years in the future, I'm sure they have great grenade launchers.
If you can't see a grenade coming from a mass driver and be able to evade. You deserved death, they're already slow.
And at range they're simply mortars. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 06:29:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:] Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Rachoi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Mass driver is an indirect fire weapon, thats why it killed you. It is meant as an arcing lobber. if you got killed behind cover it means the MD gunner was a.genius and he had a spotter telling him where you are. functionally artillery in game.
second if.a.mass driver round explodes nearby wise people dive for cover, as they believe the next one will land on your head.
also a sh**-hot gunner can predict the angle by where you are on his radar. the mass driver, when wielded by a ballistic genius (genius of any kind is rare in a dust battlefield) will be a holy terror.
someone got a lucky shot and you were sitting still. working as intended.
further. I Can sit on one side of a wall, lob rounds almost straight up and nail the bastard on the other side. its kinda what grenade launchers do.
and I am willing to bet money you havent got a clue how they work. skill up and give em a go. Most people hate the MD because its not as easy to use as they think.
this will be my only nice post in this thread. fair warning.
why does everyone think i hate the MD? seriously, i'm suggesting a tweak, not a nerf.
if someone was playing mortar man when i was in cover, nicely done, is someone was on the other side of the wall... i'd prefered if they shot me with a pistol instead. i've met MD users on both sides, so i am jsut hoping for a tweak.
please stop thinking this is me 'hating' on it, stop thinking i want it nerfed. the power can stay, the range is all i want fiddled with, okay?
Bro, I know what your saying, but your not listening, If you tweak the range you break the gun. After that post, breakn' stuff is going to be all over this......he did warn you after all. And they were playing mortar. lol I don't think its even possible to stand on the other side of the wall that your on and shoot the MD in anyway that's going to wall hop and kill you. how does giving a momentum fall off like a thrown grenade break it? i want to know the real answer to this one. i mean... anything launched can only fly so far before air friction grabs it It takes a long time to reach a target in the distance. Eventually for range it will simply arc all the way down and die. This is 1000's of years in the future, I'm sure they have great grenade launchers. If you can't see a grenade coming from a mass driver and be able to evade. You deserved death, they're already slow. And at range they're simply mortars. yes, they probably do have great grenade launcher systems, and yes, i can dodges them when at an extreme range. do they have friction dampeners? i dont know, so i have to assume air friction would slow it down a bout 80-100 meters out
Which is why at max range they either arc out to the ground or explode mid air.
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Posted - 2013.02.09 06:45:00 -
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Rachoi wrote:i did not know they airbursted at max range, if i did, i'd just say bring in realistic physics about that then... thank you for pointing that out.
if they do tweak the physics, i hope to lord they make sure to keep the range balanced then.
i do like MDs, its hard not to like a grenade launcher, i just hope for the best then
Yep it'd be nice if at max range or close to it would simply drop instead of explode, but then it gives the wall possibility.
Where your on one side MD on the other, then he could shoot it almost straight up and as it falls land on the other side and well on you. |
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:57:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Annnnnd... someone didn't get the point the first time so everyone stand here while papa breakin stuff mocks the crap out of him for NOT READING MY POST CORRECTLY.
Hurr durr. Shut up for a minute, I'm talking here.
The mass driver, often called the Noob tube has a roughly guestimated range maximum somewhere between 60 and 80 meters (closer to 30-40 unless you know ballistic angles like Jesus knows prayer), unaffected by the sharpshooter skill (unlike every other goddamned weapon in the game) because the velocity and mass of the round is fixed. So screw off.
Now, let us add to this, that your accuracy at these ranges is somewhat akin to trying to hit your baby brother in the head with a quarter by DROPPING IT OFF A GODDAMNED SATELLITE! if you were derp enough to stand there while mass driver shells are falling from the sky then my friend you need to re-evaluate standing still, because OOPS! MY cover's been blown Cagney! Help me!
Third, the blast radius is very limited, and while it can be expanded upon via skill that also extends the splash damage falloff outward. so I'm guessing that Either you in your hail mary unlucky shot having self ate one direct to the top of the head, or you stood still while the gunner fired about five of them in your general direction like a complete tool. Guess what most of us consider to be a bad idea?
Another valid point: Listen up chuckles, because it's not the fun one. You can kill yourself with a mass driver. i have... frequently, because i shot a redberry at point blank and figure better I get credit for killing me than he does. Another thing, the refire rate is SLOOOOOOW. a bit over one second per shot refire delay.
And finally, I recognize you'd rather he ran up and shoot you, because it's more sporting and you can shoot back, but let me newsflash you kiddies. If you're playing the game fair, you're doing it wrong. I'm a master of cheap shots and dirty tricks and I have no shame in it. As my drill instructor told me "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying."
But i don't care. I hear the QQ of a man offended that someone had the audacity to pummel the crap out of him with a weapon doing a trick shot that almost requires an act of God. I have no damned sympathy. Even less now that you are being deliberately obtuse and demanding a range reduction of one of the only weapons in the game that can kill the wielder.
Since the lesson was not learned properly, I declare tomorrow, Saturday, Feburary 9th to be a new Dust 514 Holiday. It shall be known as "Steel Rain on Rachoi" Day! For the commencement of the holiday I ask all who can to watch the rosters of battle for our dear friend Rachoi, and spawn nothing but mass drivers to cheer on his great work demanding our beloved noobtoob be nerfed so that it cannot kill him when he wants to feel safe.
If you cannot use a mass driver, then I offer you this humble substitution just for him.
Militia forge guns are cheap as hell and require no skill point investment. They can be the substitute weapon if your mass driver skills are nonexistent.
Go forth my children, find Rachoi, and make it rain.
lol my friend, I am in love.
+1 on post. and OP he did warn you.
Tomorrow I'm going noobtube crazy, it is the holidays after all right?
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:08:00 -
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Guys guys,
The guy gets it, if you've read the posts you know we've changed his mind.
Stop trolling him and being cruel.
Breaking stuff and I did that already. |
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