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ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 10:55:00 -
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that the type 2 assault is trash.
im better off using a type 1 scout suit and doing better. wtf happend? |
Repe Susi
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:00:00 -
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Interesting.
Why do you think it's trash?
I used it exclusively last build. Cheap and sturdy was my impressions about it.
Of course, if you like it fast, scout suits are the way to go but as Assault, type II is good IMO. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:02:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:that the type 2 assault is trash.
im better off using a type 1 scout suit and doing better. wtf happend?
trash ? ok....
Better PG\CPU, better base shield hp that enhances the interest of shield management, faster movement.
yeah it's trash.  |
ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:04:00 -
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i used it 2 builds ago and thought to myself why use a proto when im immortal with it. but now ive done the same exact builds to it i did 2 builds ago and its just not what it was. the shields just get ate by everything. remind you my shileds are at 390 and it fells like its weak.
my scout 1 i pull 30 to 40 plus kills in a game while playing the objective and i run through heavies without a problem.
do you not see where this is wrong? a scout shouldnt be this good an assault is made for frontline fighting and its useless.
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Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:04:00 -
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Only trash if you are armor tanking as an assault, in which case you are probably trash...
The only reason the scout might be better is speed, I can only assume people can't aim on you properly? All your stats are worse except for movement speed. |
ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:06:00 -
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more room yes i agree but i dont know shields just dont feel the same ive done everything possible to upgrade them as well. most of my shields skills are maxed out and trust me im no nub ive been playing for a while. |
ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:08:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Only trash if you are armor tanking as an assault, in which case you are probably trash...
The only reason the scout might be better is speed, I can only assume people can't aim on you properly? All your stats are worse except for movement speed.
lol me trash? please bro im not one to brag but im far from trash. i know how to play the game well. |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.08 12:41:00 -
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Have you considered that most Newberries are stacking damage mods? As a scout you are probably dodging more bullets than an assault class can. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.08 12:45:00 -
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Scout shield recharge kicks in faster. If you are tickled every kill, the scout is ready for the next one quicker. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.08 15:17:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:i used it 2 builds ago and thought to myself why use a proto when im immortal with it. but now ive done the same exact builds to it i did 2 builds ago and its just not what it was. the shields just get ate by everything. remind you my shileds are at 390 and it fells like its weak.
my scout 1 i pull 30 to 40 plus kills in a game while playing the objective and i run through heavies without a problem.
do you not see where this is wrong? a scout shouldnt be this good an assault is made for frontline fighting and its useless.
You know, I've kinda been having the same experience.
I typically spawn into Skirmish in a Dragonfly scout suit for early hacks, etc. This suit has 1 militia extender on it and the Toxin SMG and standard 'nades - that's it for defense/offense. I expect to die in it, unless I can get to a resupply first, which I don't make a priority. SMG skill is at lvl 2, weaponry is at lvl 3, sharpshooter not trained, so fairly underpowered at this point.
Thing is, I seem to be killing 5-6 peeps every game in that scout suit. I've been wondering lately how a dedicated SMG combat scout would fare. My guess is that it would be fairly lethal. |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.08 15:22:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:more room yes i agree but i dont know shields just dont feel the same ive done everything possible to upgrade them as well. most of my shields skills are maxed out and trust me im no nub ive been playing for a while.
Is it maybe because there's more lasers around now? They have definitely affected my Type II playstyle. |
LXicon
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:13:00 -
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for logistics, i've noticed two distinct flavours of suits. the progression goes like:
type-I -> A series -> vk0
type-II -> B-series -> vk1
if you don't like the type-II move to A-series. if you DO like the type-II, you'll probably want the B-series next. |
Billytook mandrag
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:22:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:Interesting.
Why do you think it's trash?
I used it exclusively last build. Cheap and sturdy was my impressions about it.
Of course, if you like it fast, scout suits are the way to go but as Assault, type II is good IMO.
Unless you got a gek, stupidly expensive then. |
Rynx Sinfar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:33:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:that the type 2 assault is trash.
im better off using a type 1 scout suit and doing better. wtf happend?
Personally I am having issues with close range scouts on my heavy suit due to lag. They move quickly enough and the lag "mini jumps" at close range cause major issues. I can keep them targeted but I don't really know where they are because they will just 1ft to the left, or 1ft to the right from strafing which moves them out of target for a moment. Also the hig h jumps create an extra dimension for that.
Assaults who do this only jump like half that and my shots still hit because they are close enough to where I actually see them.
Mostly the level of trouble I have is determined by server lag, bad games I might not get a scout shield down. But it seems more complaints are coming out about this, on my side it is starting to go down again and I hope it is back to where it was a couple weeks ago soon.
p.s. sensitivity is turned up |
ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:45:00 -
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Rynx Sinfar wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:that the type 2 assault is trash.
im better off using a type 1 scout suit and doing better. wtf happend? Personally I am having issues with close range scouts on my heavy suit due to lag. They move quickly enough and the lag "mini jumps" at close range cause major issues. I can keep them targeted but I don't really know where they are because they will just 1ft to the left, or 1ft to the right from strafing which moves them out of target for a moment. Also the hig h jumps create an extra dimension for that. Assaults who do this only jump like half that and my shots still hit because they are close enough to where I actually see them. Mostly the level of trouble I have is determined by server lag, bad games I might not get a scout shield down. But it seems more complaints are coming out about this, on my side it is starting to go down again and I hope it is back to where it was a couple weeks ago soon. p.s. sensitivity is turned up
only way u would have an issue with scout in a heavy is if they rock a catalizer for speed and stack them then the scout moves so fast that it even lags the guy using the scout. ive tried it and damn the scout moves so fast. but the point to this thread is i own a scout suit type 1 valor and a assault type 2 suit with 390 shields everything is upgraded on my shields precisely 2 builds ago i was one of the hardest people to kill under my main name anonymous killers and now im using the same exact type 2 suit and to me it doesnt feel like the monster it was 2 builds ago. the shields have been nerfed on suits. my valor suit does more speed wise and because the shields repair so much faster. but its backwards because the assault is supposed to be made for frontline battle and the scout well its a scout. its not supposed to be better then the assault. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:45:00 -
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It's called new players getting better at the game, you'll be surprised at how many people don't hip fire from 50 yards away anymore. |
ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:59:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:It's called new players getting better at the game, you'll be surprised at how many people don't hip fire from 50 yards away anymore.
i disagree.
dude i dont play for kdr i play with my team currently my kdr is at 3.8 and this is cuz i can play. ppl getting better has nothing to do with the weakness of the suit.
im sure if u played against me you wouldnt of said that comment. the skill doesnt matter what does matter is that somewhere along the line something was messed with and never got fixed.
sort of like alot of the glitches still in the game from the 1st day the beta was released. |
M3DIC 2U
RED COLONIAL MARINES
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:05:00 -
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Think the big difference is shield recharge rate. Adding that mod really ups the survival of a scout compaired to an assault. I think the suits and some of the sub skills push them better. Also the Dragonfly is a "special" suit so I'd expect it to perform better than off the rack ones. You paid REAL money to get that puppy, not just ISK. |
ANON Illuminati
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:08:00 -
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M3DIC 2U wrote:Think the big difference is shield recharge rate. Adding that mod really ups the survival of a scout compaired to an assault. I think the suits and some of the sub skills push them better. Also the Dragonfly is a "special" suit so I'd expect it to perform better than off the rack ones. You paid REAL money to get that puppy, not just ISK.
not using the dragonfly.
i got the mag suits when the merc pack released them all in one pack. its called the valor scout suit. its a level 1 scout suit i really see no differance in the valor and the dragonfly but yea its an epic suit. |
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