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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:19:00 -
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never got a dev answer as to why the voice system is the way it is why would you make a team game, and then remove the most fundamental component of good teamwork? is this to prevent strain on your voice comm servers? why not just say that? |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:21:00 -
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I find that the most likely reason, I suspect the PSN is bad with handling VC, or at least does it in an unconventional way.
Does anyone remember how bad VC on BF3 was on the PS3 for the first three months, while it worked flawlessly on PC and 360. |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
32
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:29:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I find that the most likely reason, I suspect the PSN is bad with handling VC, or at least does it in an unconventional way.
Does anyone remember how bad VC on BF3 was on the PS3 for the first three months, while it worked flawlessly on PC and 360.
that's perfectly reasonable, i just wish they would say SOMETHING
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Entrei Blackstorm
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:31:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I find that the most likely reason, I suspect the PSN is bad with handling VC, or at least does it in an unconventional way.
Does anyone remember how bad VC on BF3 was on the PS3 for the first three months, while it worked flawlessly on PC and 360. that's perfectly reasonable, i just wish they would say SOMETHING
That's kind of like asking God to speak to you like he did with Moses.
Ain't happening bro |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:34:00 -
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Entrei Blackstorm wrote:That's kind of like asking God to speak to you like he did with Moses. Ain't happening bro
the devs pop on the IRC all the time, none of them there know what the reason is
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Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:46:00 -
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Do you really expect them to come out and say, our goal with default settings it to keep as many players off voice chat as possible due to the system not being able to support it. That would look kind of bad to be honest. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.08 08:44:00 -
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yes please |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.08 08:57:00 -
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It may look bad but it is honest to be honest |
GaryLifo
THE DOLLARS
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Posted - 2013.02.08 15:09:00 -
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I'm getting no voice chat in game at all for the last few days. Has it been switched off by the devs? |
Odayian Dust Bunny
One-Armed Bandits Orbital Rights
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Posted - 2013.02.08 15:48:00 -
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I assume for voice, they are using the same servers as EVE. For their backbone, I believe CCP uses a variant of C3/Vivox. Their servers should have more then enough power to handle the communication. More then likely it is an issue with our current client.
On a side-note: Double check your Dust data, if you had the client for a while (>3.5GB on disk) you will run into a lot of issues (Graphical, Match making, audio, etc.) Delete the data, re-download and re-install. :) Few friends were having a variety of issues and our clients were around 8.5-9GB, the re-install fixed most of it. |
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M3DIC 2U
RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:00:00 -
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I just wish folks wouldn't stream music only through the headset... or like the last one I played, Spongebob Squarepants. No talking, just Spongebob. If you have a mic, talk. |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:19:00 -
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checked on the IRC last night, apparently the voice chat being default off was a consequence of a very low level bug |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
32
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:26:00 -
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Odayian Dust Bunny wrote:I assume for voice, they are using the same servers as EVE. For their backbone, I believe CCP uses a variant of C3/Vivox. Their servers should have more then enough power to handle the communication. More then likely it is an issue with our current client.
On a side-note: Double check your Dust data, if you had the client for a while (>3.5GB on disk) you will run into a lot of issues (Graphical, Match making, audio, etc.) Delete the data, re-download and re-install. :) Few friends were having a variety of issues and our clients were around 8.5-9GB, the re-install fixed most of it.
uh, you're going to have to qualify that, there isn't any way to check the installed size of a game on the ps3 as far as i know edit; whops, it's listed as "size" in megabytes when looking at the information panel of a downloaded game, kind of in the middle of the list |
SYN BLACK XS
Greatness Achieved Through Training
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Posted - 2013.02.14 19:36:00 -
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They want yo $$$. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.14 19:47:00 -
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I don't want to listen to everybody, anyone who's ever played CoD would know that the current settings are for the best. |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.14 20:12:00 -
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I have also been complaining about this for ages. there are several possible reasons for this being the default setting.
-Push to talk is a common setting for PC games and less common (practically non existent) for console games. CCP has more experience with PC development.
-Voice bandwidth could cost enough to make it seem worth being off by default. Could just be part of a free to play game cost that we don't normally consider.
Interestingly, I just tried the free to play game DC Universe Online on PS3 and it also has voice off and push to talk on by default.
The problem CCP doesn't seem to acknowledge is that many new players don't know about the setting and either assume no one uses voice (a sign that a MP game sucks) or think the game is broken when they squad up with friends and can't hear or talk to each other. |
Sigberct Amni
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.14 20:22:00 -
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While these defaults suck for pub matches, there are two things to keep in mind.
First, it's set up this way to try to tone down the spamming of garbage over mics. Because this annoys people and instead of taking the time to mute idiots each match, they might just decide to uninstall CCP's free game.
Secondly, if you happen to be social and join a not awful corporation then they will have co-operation and likely rules about requiring everyone to listen in. if you plan to be a lone wolf, you're going to have to deal with it because of point one. Sucks.
Right now, the activities that require serious effort and team work aren't really in place. Instant battles and FW aren't the end all of game modes. The real metagame of dust will be in what is involved when we clash in nullsec. Serious entities will all be mic'd up and have comms discipline. Just like serious groups in any other FPS. |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2013.02.14 21:25:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote: voice chat DEFAULT ON, push to talk DEFAULT OFF, team chat DEFAULT
Why are new threads like this created every thirdday? The answer is still the same: NO! (Hint: Search for the 473 other threads on the EXACT same subject)
Voice chat to default to On, sure... people are generally not going to look to settings to turn it on.
Push-To-Talk (PTT) default Off - No .. no, nein, nej, bu, ei, njet, no fracking way!
Reason? Don't want the first thing You hear when playing Dust514 for the first time to be potty-mouthed "CoD pieces", screaming children and crappy music blasting out of the speaker!
Keep PTT on, and make sure there is an interstital reminding people that to talk, you need to push Right on the d-pad. (There already is, btw - its the one showing the control layout)
As for defaulting to Team Chat - yeah, lets make sure people never learn about squad-based gameplay ... In fact, why don't we just play free-for-all on Quake 2.
Edit: CCP is aware of this situation, and no, it is not set up to generate cash for CCP (seriously, "SYN BLACK XS"?) |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2013.02.14 21:40:00 -
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because it's not an M rated game and not everyone wants their kids to hear voice chat by default.. get a corp and stop trying to comm with randoms |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.14 21:58:00 -
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I know it's becuase beta but I hope it happens soon |
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