Cause adv heavy is worthless and I'm getting cutdown by adv assaults with gek's at close range before I can even drop their shields. Buff heavy.

If you can't kill an Assault at close range with the HMG, you clearly have no idea what you're doing.

Lol. Typical of you. Bandwagon on the first OP thing people scream of, find out it's not all peaches, ask for buff/nerf.

Started playing Heavy last build scrub. Its only "op against milita and standard. Against adv and proto gear its supremely weak.

Which is the point. A heavy is suppression, if coupled with a logi it can tear sh*t up.

bet you wouldn't beat me its about the AR users skill not just yours

Sigh.....Why....why are we always arguing about this? (dumb question, amirite?)

It's not about using team work, most of the veteran heavies do this already. So the ol' standby "run wiff logi or gitgud scrob" doesn't apply here.

This is about the suit itself not being about to stand up against other suits. I haven't seen Paran in action, but I assume that he's using the heavy as he should (i've been wrong before). Against Standard and Militia suits, the heavy trumps. But once those assaulters get into the Advanced suits, coupled with the modules, it's a losing battle for the heavies.


It's like me and other heavies have been saying this for ages or something..........

Sigh.....Why....why are we always arguing about this? (dumb question, amirite?)

It's not about using team work, most of the veteran heavies do this already. So the ol' standby "run wiff logi or gitgud scrob" doesn't apply here.

This is about the suit itself not being about to stand up against other suits. I haven't seen Paran in action, but I assume that he's using the heavy as he should (i've been wrong before). Against Standard and Militia suits, the heavy trumps. But once those assaulters get into the Advanced suits, coupled with the modules, it's a losing battle for the heavies.


It's like me and other heavies have been saying this for ages or something..........

I will admit that the way armor plating works and how heavies are set up, at higher levels they dont get as much of an HP buff as they should. Add a +5% armor per level of Amarr Heavy Dropsuit Operation and I think everything would be golden.

Should add, I usually run pistol, flux ,forge as a heavy. HMG is too weak, as is the suit. Drop range on HMG, boost DMG and boost suit fitting PG and CPU for adv and pro. Problems solved.

Skill is part of it of course, but if you look at raw HP and DPS differences between the two for close range, the HMG has such an insane advantage that its no contest.

If skill is REALLY that much of a factor in you getting killed as Heavy, then maybe you're just not very good at being a heavy?



Also, Heavies can aim for the head too. Shocking, I know.

Pistol, eh? I like your style. It's dangerous (i'm also a ****-poor shot with a pistol)

I've had relative amounts of success with just the MH-82 and a few damage mods on the Type-II.

I've debated going back to fluxs though.

As far as the adjustments to the HMG, if I remember correctly, it was either Kain or Beers that suggested keeping the range as is, but shortening the effective range of the HMGs. So your shots still went as far as they do now, but scatter all to hell at range more-so then they do now.