DUST Search - Hello Armor Tanks. Getting Comfortable Now?

Mr Zitro wrote:

Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

Swarms are anti armor
Forges are anti shield
AV grenades are anti armor
Flux grenades are anti shield

Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health

Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post!

I didn't say it makes it anti shield, and it's very simple what I said.

Say this weapon does equal damage to everything
it will be more difficult for it to destroy something with 3600 total health than something with 3200. Armor plates tend to add more to armor than shield extenders add to shields.

You said forge ARE ANTI SHIELD, which is just wrong. They are just as much anti armor as anti shield. You misspoke everyone does it, just accept it. Say my mistake or edit it to say forges are better against shield but are just as effective against armor

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Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:08:00 - [1] - Quote I hope so. Because the plasma launcher is said to be able to f*** armor up.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:11:00 - [2] - Quote Pretty sure it's thermal so think again! Unless you have a link of course.
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 462	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:32:00 - [3] - Quote heard its anti shield tho....
Tac Com Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 41	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:41:00 - [4] - Quote Really? Armour tanking is comfortable? It's all about managing your modules and not getting stuck. With often the abysmal acceleration of armour tanking and the reliance on armour repairers to stay alive leaves armour tanking very vulnerable when you don't have a repper ready. Steady damage over time is the key to defeating an armour tank. And since AV grenades and Swarms do bonus damage to armour and forge guns, railguns, and blasters do even damage to both shields and armour, there really lacks a strong anti-shield option. Currently there is Flux Grenades. That is it. So as far as the damage the Plasma Launcher will do, I'm expecting a minor boost vs shields (since Thermal is slightly more effective vs shields). But currently I don't think there isn't a need for a pure anti-shield weapon since shield tanking isn't quite as tough as armour tanking at the moment. As it stands weapons that do even damage are still quite strong vs shields since shields have a hard time repelling large amounts of damage.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:42:00 - [5] - Quote Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:48:00 - [6] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post!
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:54:00 - [7] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I'm pretty sure they do deal more damage to shields, and I drove shield tanks for since replication til now.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.07 02:55:00 - [8] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I didn't say it makes it anti shield, and it's very simple what I said. Say this weapon does equal damage to everything it will be more difficult for it to destroy something with 3600 total health than something with 3200. Armor plates tend to add more to armor than shield extenders add to shields.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.02.07 03:01:00 - [9] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I'm pretty sure they do deal more damage to shields, and I drove shield tanks for since replication til now. It's 100% to both.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.07 03:06:00 - [10] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I'm pretty sure they do deal more damage to shields, and I drove shield tanks for since replication til now. It's 100% to both. Explain the association of using forge guns against shield tanks only then.

Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.02.07 03:07:00 - [11] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I didn't say it makes it anti shield, and it's very simple what I said. Say this weapon does equal damage to everything it will be more difficult for it to destroy something with 3600 total health than something with 3200. Armor plates tend to add more to armor than shield extenders add to shields. You said forge ARE ANTI SHIELD, which is just wrong. They are just as much anti armor as anti shield. You misspoke everyone does it, just accept it. Say my mistake or edit it to say forges are better against shield but are just as effective against armor
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2013.02.07 07:32:00 - [12] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I'm pretty sure they do deal more damage to shields, and I drove shield tanks for since replication til now. It's 100% to both. Explain the association of using forge guns against shield tanks only then. You "only" use forge gun on shield tanks because AV nades and swarms get damage bonus against armor tanks. That's not to say you can't use forge gun on armor tanks, since they do just as much damage as against shield tanks as Zitro said, but you're just better off using AV nades or swarms.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2013.02.07 11:47:00 - [13] - Quote slap26 wrote: heard its anti shield tho.... if its a gallente weapon its gonna be a hybrid gun like the Rails, Blasters, ARs and do equal dmg to both shield and armor Blasters shoot plasma so Plasma cannon would do equal dmg
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.02.07 12:12:00 - [14] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So ifu don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I'm pretty sure they do deal more damage to shields, and I drove shield tanks for since replication til now. Shield tanks have lower hitpoints than armor. thats why forges seem like they hit them harder. Its how they balanced out the fact that shields regen and armor does not.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2013.02.07 12:31:00 - [15] - Quote The current idea that the Forge Gun counters Shield tanks isn't because it's an anti-Shield weapon. It's because it's an evenly balanced weapon, where most of our current AV options are anti-Armour. Flux Grenades are used almost as often for AP action as they are for AV, and the Laser Rifle, while effective as an AV weapon for stripping shields, isn't powerful enough to solo most shield tanked vehicles (low-tier LAVs being an exception). AV grenades, Mass Drivers (which are like the Laser Rifle, not really suited to soloing even low-tier vehicles) and Swarm Launchers all deal reduced damage against Shields, so Shield tanks are highly resistant to those weapons. Forge Guns DON'T deal reduced damage, so Shields aren't as good a protective layer against those weapons. It's reasonable to expect that Plasma Weapons MIGHT (not will) be more effective against Shields than Armour. They might also be another balanced weapon, which will probably earn them a similar "anti-Shield" reputation to the Forge Gun.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.08 23:14:00 - [16] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Swarms are anti armor Forges are anti shield AV grenades are anti armor Flux grenades are anti shield Also knowing gallente weaponry, it's safe to say plasma launchers will by hybrid. So armor tanks will still have a slight advantage due to higher total health Forges do equal damage to both. Just because armor tanks have more EHP than shield tanks doesn't make it anti shield. So if you don't know what you are talking about please don't post! I didn't say it makes it anti shield, and it's very simple what I said. Say this weapon does equal damage to everything it will be more difficult for it to destroy something with 3600 total health than something with 3200. Armor plates tend to add more to armor than shield extenders add to shields. You said forge ARE ANTI SHIELD, which is just wrong. They are just as much anti armor as anti shield. You misspoke everyone does it, just accept it. Say my mistake or edit it to say forges are better against shield but are just as effective against armor Could have sworn you had "plasma launchers" instead of forge guns I'm pretty damn sure forges are anti shield
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 431	Posted - 2013.02.08 23:52:00 - [17] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: I hope so. Because the plasma launcher is said to be able to f*** armor up. I know who you're ref-rencing!
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 443	Posted - 2013.02.08 23:54:00 - [18] - Quote Yes, yes I am very comfortable in meh armor tank now. Gunnlogi is a sick joke CCP made.
Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis 300	Posted - 2013.02.08 23:58:00 - [19] - Quote Moar AV weapon plz CCP.
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.09 00:00:00 - [20] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: I hope so. Because the plasma launcher is said to be able to f*** armor up. LOL its anti shield. Misinformed noobies these days.



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