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iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:08:00 -
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before I hear this and that derp talk hate (yall proally the ones who use them) that gun is trash. Heavy armor and chain gun mowing down the team is OP and noobish. I think almost everything on this game is pretty balanced but smh nothing gets me more heated then tryin to kill them scrubs..
granted I have been playing a week and a half I have decent gear and guns.. some assualt armor and some heaby armor and decent weapons GEK, GB9 Breach etc weapons but damn that shiet is OP that chain gun..atleast make that gun over heat from spraying so damn much!
and with that said let the 'it's so easy to dodge them and kill them' talk begin... |
iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:17:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:It is easy to kill a heavy. You just suck.
so says the scrub Zion clan who only drives tanks and scared to get out and fight. I played yall scrubs earlier |
iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:18:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:Why was this posted?
you use this gun too right? thought so |
iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:44:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:iLLMaTiC619 wrote:Kovak Therim wrote:It is easy to kill a heavy. You just suck. so says the scrub Zion clan who only drives tanks and scared to get out and fight. I played yall scrubs earlier I haven't skilled into tanks at all. I do all my fighting on foot. Come at me.
doubt that I played skirmish today against 3 of your corp and yall were in a tank ..how do I know yall all had 0 deaths...
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iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:50:00 -
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Zat Earthshatter wrote:I notice the only weapons mentioned other than the HMG were all ARs, which leads me to believe that only ARs were used to create this opinion...
A weapon is only OP if there are almost zero counters to it - and smart playing can counter the HMG with everything except the AR. Maybe even the AR depending on the situation.
Laser Rifles: stay at range - ironically, your optimal zone is well outside the HMG effective range, allowing you to pop him if you don't let him get too close.
Mass Drivers: use your blast radius to keep the pressure on the Heavy. Just for using an MD, you should have squaddies to kill him while you are suppressing, which is your job with that weapon. MDs are mostly assist weapons, but can get kills in certain positions.
Shotgun Scout: I say Scout because that is the best use of the shotgun. Flank the Heavy, ideally out of sight, then blast him from point-blank. Only takes 2 hits to knock him out from full health if you had the reticule on him right (i've missed badly like that)
AR: Guess what? the AR isn't meant to be a be-all end-all at most ranges. It's meant to be effective at a variety of ranges, but different weapons in their optimal will beat an AR almost every time in an equal-skill situation, as is intended.
A number of "nerf this!" threads are based upon not knowing this
Sidearms: not a good idea. The only sidearm that has a chance is the Scrambler Pistol, and that's if you land a headshot for 400% damage.
Summary:
HMGs will beat ARs - both are mid-range guns, but the HMG is specialized for mid-range. Against a competent HMG user, an AR user will not have a chance. I would like to hear the OP give feedback on using a different weapon with appropriate playstyle against an HMG user.
In even fewer words: Don't fight a battleaxe with a Swiss Army Knife - use a longbow or cloak+dagger instead.
I agree with this I can kill a heavy with hmg with a laser gun.. my point is when you spawn by on which is luck of the draw or try to take them on sometimes you won't win.. I just think it should over heat the longer you spray with it and make it a little in accurate.. you ever play Socom? they had the heavy machine guns not very accurate.. same should be used for this game and more recoil as well IMO
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iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:57:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:I've been a gunner in a tank on a few rare occasions, but that's it. Today was one of those rare days. There are many ways to beat a heavy and his HMG, you just don't want to learn any of them. You just want CCP to baby you. HTFU
lol@ rare ok I have read on other threads yall always hop in tanks..no I dont want ccp to baby me.. just make the hmg a little more inaccurate and over heat the longer you spray it with some recoil..IMO this is a feedback page right?! do I have to agree with you or others on my opinion no ..this is a FEEDBACK page.. and I am voicing my opinion .. I saw another thread on here like this and yall who proally use this gun bash our thoughts about it..
I thin this game is balanced overall..if they don't change a thing no biggie I can adjust .. but I hear others complaining about other things in the game do you tell them that ccp is trying to baby them for vocing their opinions also? |
iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:58:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:iLLMaTiC619 wrote:Zat Earthshatter wrote:I notice the only weapons mentioned other than the HMG were all ARs, which leads me to believe that only ARs were used to create this opinion...
A weapon is only OP if there are almost zero counters to it - and smart playing can counter the HMG with everything except the AR. Maybe even the AR depending on the situation.
Laser Rifles: stay at range - ironically, your optimal zone is well outside the HMG effective range, allowing you to pop him if you don't let him get too close.
Mass Drivers: use your blast radius to keep the pressure on the Heavy. Just for using an MD, you should have squaddies to kill him while you are suppressing, which is your job with that weapon. MDs are mostly assist weapons, but can get kills in certain positions.
Shotgun Scout: I say Scout because that is the best use of the shotgun. Flank the Heavy, ideally out of sight, then blast him from point-blank. Only takes 2 hits to knock him out from full health if you had the reticule on him right (i've missed badly like that)
AR: Guess what? the AR isn't meant to be a be-all end-all at most ranges. It's meant to be effective at a variety of ranges, but different weapons in their optimal will beat an AR almost every time in an equal-skill situation, as is intended.
A number of "nerf this!" threads are based upon not knowing this
Sidearms: not a good idea. The only sidearm that has a chance is the Scrambler Pistol, and that's if you land a headshot for 400% damage.
Summary:
HMGs will beat ARs - both are mid-range guns, but the HMG is specialized for mid-range. Against a competent HMG user, an AR user will not have a chance. I would like to hear the OP give feedback on using a different weapon with appropriate playstyle against an HMG user.
In even fewer words: Don't fight a battleaxe with a Swiss Army Knife - use a longbow or cloak+dagger instead. I agree with this I can kill a heavy with hmg with a laser gun.. my point is when you spawn by on which is luck of the draw or try to take them on sometimes you won't win.. I just think it should over heat the longer you spray with it and make it a little in accurate.. you ever play Socom? they had the heavy machine guns not very accurate.. same should be used for this game and more recoil as well IMO 1: They do heat up 2: they are inacurate at start of Firing 3: this aint SOCOM 4: look up a GYRO its a cool thing wich the HMG utilizes
well heat them up more lol I didn't know they did I have never used the gun.. I know it aint socom it was an example..
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iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 07:59:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:iLLMaTiC619 wrote:Kovak Therim wrote:iLLMaTiC619 wrote:Kovak Therim wrote:It is easy to kill a heavy. You just suck. so says the scrub Zion clan who only drives tanks and scared to get out and fight. I played yall scrubs earlier I haven't skilled into tanks at all. I do all my fighting on foot. Come at me. doubt that I played skirmish today against 3 of your corp and yall were in a tank ..how do I know yall all had 0 deaths... Iv seen plenty of AR guys go with 0 deathes, Snipers and HMG guys to Hell I even seen shottygunners and Laz0r beamers go wit 0 deaths
they wernt sniping..0 death on a medium size skirmish map match..don't think so..someone would have gotten them..oh well |
iLLMaTiC619
KiLo.
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Posted - 2013.02.06 08:00:00 -
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Kovak Therim wrote:Try using a heavy sometime and get caught at range against assaults and scouts armed with laser rifles and ARs. You'd be surprised at how helpless a feeling that is. I have had enough of these topics.
do you use the gun?
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iLLMaTiC619
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Posted - 2013.02.06 08:06:00 -
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DropKickSuicide wrote:iLLMaTiC619 wrote:DropKickSuicide wrote:iLLMaTiC619 wrote:Zat Earthshatter wrote:I notice the only weapons mentioned other than the HMG were all ARs, which leads me to believe that only ARs were used to create this opinion...
A weapon is only OP if there are almost zero counters to it - and smart playing can counter the HMG with everything except the AR. Maybe even the AR depending on the situation.
Laser Rifles: stay at range - ironically, your optimal zone is well outside the HMG effective range, allowing you to pop him if you don't let him get too close.
Mass Drivers: use your blast radius to keep the pressure on the Heavy. Just for using an MD, you should have squaddies to kill him while you are suppressing, which is your job with that weapon. MDs are mostly assist weapons, but can get kills in certain positions.
Shotgun Scout: I say Scout because that is the best use of the shotgun. Flank the Heavy, ideally out of sight, then blast him from point-blank. Only takes 2 hits to knock him out from full health if you had the reticule on him right (i've missed badly like that)
AR: Guess what? the AR isn't meant to be a be-all end-all at most ranges. It's meant to be effective at a variety of ranges, but different weapons in their optimal will beat an AR almost every time in an equal-skill situation, as is intended.
A number of "nerf this!" threads are based upon not knowing this
Sidearms: not a good idea. The only sidearm that has a chance is the Scrambler Pistol, and that's if you land a headshot for 400% damage.
Summary:
HMGs will beat ARs - both are mid-range guns, but the HMG is specialized for mid-range. Against a competent HMG user, an AR user will not have a chance. I would like to hear the OP give feedback on using a different weapon with appropriate playstyle against an HMG user.
In even fewer words: Don't fight a battleaxe with a Swiss Army Knife - use a longbow or cloak+dagger instead. I agree with this I can kill a heavy with hmg with a laser gun.. my point is when you spawn by on which is luck of the draw or try to take them on sometimes you won't win.. I just think it should over heat the longer you spray with it and make it a little in accurate.. you ever play Socom? they had the heavy machine guns not very accurate.. same should be used for this game and more recoil as well IMO 1: They do heat up 2: they are inacurate at start of Firing 3: this aint SOCOM 4: look up a GYRO its a cool thing wich the HMG utilizes well heat them up more lol I didn't know they did I have never used the gun.. I know it aint socom it was an example.. You might wanna try using what you call Nerf to. It will show you how stupid your cries really are
with people with higher kill to death ratio pretty much every game your theory is inaccurate.. most of yall have good ass armor and top that with this gun... anyways I'm done I voiced my thoughts on this |
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