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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:35:00 -
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Yeah getting 1 shotted or 2 shotted from a shotgun from 10 ft away seems balanced...
I'm using an HMG shooting a scout running straight towards me, but he kills me with 2 shots. Anyone who thinks heavies are OP is an idiot. Heavies are already a joke and people aren't running proto suits yet. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:48:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:this is false, a shotgun needs to deal 4 direct shots to kill a well fitted heavy.
Unless it's a high level shotgun with maxed out skills.
no it does not. I counted the shots. 2 shots = me dead.
He wasn't even 5 ft away...he was more like 10 ft.
I know up close they're suppose to kill, I'm not an idiot, but when I'm seeing a scout running towards, WHILE I'm shooting him with an HMG from 10ft, and I get 2 shotted, that's not balanced.
Within 5 ft I can take. Yea up close I'm suppose to be dead, but 100ft? 2 shotted? LOOOOL
Yea it's funny people keep saying shotguns are fine while an HMG can't even take out a scout at 10 ft.
Great logic guys. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.05 22:57:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:If they nerf shotguns, then they should nerf HMGs as well.
Shotgun gets less pellets while the HMG gets less range.
The nerf HMG's has been talked about MANY times. Every decent heavy has no problem with nerfing the range and heat build up. Any heavy that has a problem doesn't have skill.
But no one talks about the shotguns here. Everything is heavy this, and heavy that, while an HMG is a joke compared to a shotgun wielding scout with speed mods lagging all over the screen due to frame rate drops. So I'm seeing him 10ft off but in reality he's right there.
So yea, nerf the guy with the hitbox of a truck, and do nothing about a scout + shotgun combo.
GG community. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:06:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:it's like the game designers know what they are doing.
btw the goal of a game desinger is to make your life harder not easier. Look at any game, like golf. It'd be easier if all you had to do was put the ball in the hole, but there are sand tarps and water and big field in the way.
This is odd, I don't think people are used to a shooter with counters yet lol. In BF3 or MW *which I love playing* every weapon kills everyone. But in this game weapons are situational. Heavies are fine, Shotguns are fine.
"Rock is OP, Paper is fine"
-Scissors
yea getting 2 shotted from 10ft seems fine...btw, wasn't even an advanced shotgun.
As a heavy I can say I have no problem with a nerf on range and heat build up...yet it's funny I won't hear a scout say "yea shotguns are a little too good"
This community is shaping up to be a joke. Funny thing is, I'm not the guy to ever go on threads and say stuff is OP and needs a nerf, but the shotguns are ridiculous.
But hey, people not gonna admit it right? Can't take away the easy switch just like that! Let's make noise about the HMG and heavies some more... in fact, let's just take them out the game because when everyone runs proto suits, heavies will be a bigger joke. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.05 23:12:00 -
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O a big LOOOOOL @ people telling me how to play.
I've been on dust for months. I've played EVERY class, and know how every class works. I'm heavy now for 2-3 months and on THIS build I'm at a 8 KD.
"oh how about flanking"...
did you even read what I wrote? The scout is running STRAIGHT AT ME WHILE I WAS SHOOTING HIM.
Frame rate issues / lag + the shotgun dmg range being ridiculous. Not a matter of L2A, or learn to flank.
The FACT i'm pointing out is more people complaining about heavies than people complaining about something than can 2 shot people at range.
But hey, I'm a scrub right? I obviously can't play, and I obviously don't know how other classes work.  |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.06 20:17:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:O a big LOOOOOL @ people telling me how to play. I've been on dust for months. I've played EVERY class, and know how every class works. I'm heavy now for 2-3 months and on THIS build I'm at a 8 KD. "oh how about flanking"... did you even read what I wrote? The scout is running STRAIGHT AT ME WHILE I WAS SHOOTING HIM. Frame rate issues / lag + the shotgun dmg range being ridiculous. Not a matter of L2A, or learn to flank. The FACT i'm pointing out is more people complaining about heavies than people complaining about something than can 2 shot people at range. But hey, I'm a scrub right? I obviously can't play, and I obviously don't know how other classes work. So.... You're mad because the game got laggy and a shotgun scout killed you? Seriously? You want to nerf an entire class because sometimes a beta slows down and you die? He was inside you kill range. Sucks you missed. Reminds me of that time those AV nades killed my lagged out tank. Nerf those puppies too.
how about investing some SP into your comprehension skill?
my main gripe is how everyone seems fine with a scout running about 1 shotting people, but have a problem getting killed by heavies when they're in CQC...
Edit: If you have no problems getting 1 shotted by shotguns, then STFU about getting killed by heavies. Bunch of f*cking hypocrites.
"oh the shotgun is good for cqc so it's ok" and heavies + hmg isn't suppose to be??
QQ HEAVIES ARE OP! NERF! |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.06 20:27:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Heavy suit isn't op moron. The hmg is unbalanced. And the shotgun is good in public matches but in Corp battles they are useless. They are meant to dominate at CQC only. I have complained about all militia gear being too good.
What I love the most is how people don't see how a hmg(40m) has a higher optimal than an AR(38m). I know a hmg is suppose to be a lawnmower at CQC but competing with an AR in range and accuracy is just stupid. Anyone who can't see that is either in love with HMGs and is blind to the facts or is a complete moron.
most decent heavies don't really care if the range gets nerfed, also include a heat build up speed nerf...w/e.
only heavies QQ'ing about that are noobs.
What I lol over is people QQ'ing about heavies killing them in CQC... |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.06 22:49:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:I run Shotgun Scout exclusively. I die if a heavy looks at me askew. I die in a second if someone with an AR spots me when I dash from cover to cover. The only chance I have is getting up close and personal. Shotgun is supposed to be devastating at close range, but is really weak at moderate range, and absolutely useless at long range. It's actually finely balanced. OP should read Ten Commandments of Nerf and Buff Threads).
how about no. I'll have my personal opinions and express them.
people b!tch and moan about heavies when they're fine with shotgun scouts...
both are meant for cqc while the shotgun kills faster, so yeah.... you think being a heavy means I survive longer when 2-3 people see me? lol... big hitbox + slow movement.
Heavies are already becoming a joke...I can't wait for all the classes proto gear comes out while the heavy proto stuff remains a joke.
200+k ISK for an extra highslot compared to a B series suit.... heavies are the laughing stalk of New Eden, yet people call them OP. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.06 23:00:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:how about no. I'll have my personal opinions and express them.
people b!tch and moan about heavies when they're fine with shotgun scouts...
both are meant for cqc while the shotgun kills faster, so yeah.... you think being a heavy means I survive longer when 2-3 people see me? lol... big hitbox + slow movement. Give the scouts a quick burst with the HMG and their dead. Usually I don't find the small hit box of the scout to be a problem when I have the ultimate spray and pray weapon
coming from a mountain sniper... GG?
Besides, the dmg of an HMG craps out at range because of the dispersion.... even with sharphooter...the thing shoots spitballs, so while I'm spitting away I'm getting 2 shotted.
This wasn't a thread to call nerf on shotguns really, it's to show how stupid this community is when a shotgun is fine, but an HMG is OP... |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.07 19:50:00 -
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dafuq....this thread still going?  |
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