DUST Search - We need redline sniping fixed.

137H4RGIC wrote:

Primarily, I am a tank pilot. I love driving me tanks. And in the map where there's mountains everywhere and rock formations in the middle (Not sure what it's called) One of two things are happening on that map. Sniper Swarm Launchers/Forge Guns or Snipers. Rarely will I ever see a heavy or an assault, or a logi for that matter.

Different maps call for different class compisitions. Naturally you will be strong on one map, and weak in another. I've noticed that in Installation maps, my tank is a lot stronger as it has more cover to hide in and bank around. Snipers naturally have a much more difficult time on those maps. In open terrain maps with lots of visibility, those maps will favor the classes that rely on range. Such as snipers.

In short, Tanks get Hate because they are OP in some maps where CQC is called for, why? Because they're nearly impossible to kill at CQ. They kill you (usually) faster before you can do anything about it.

Snipers get hate because they are OP in some maps where Long range combat is called for, why? Because they're so far away that your AR, HMG, or SMG won't reach them, and you're at the mercy of their scopes. In short? All classes are working as intended. Having been playing a Sniper class the past few days, I feel that this insight is unbiased and largely true for any class that benefits from certain maps.


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fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.02.06 12:18:00 - [1] - Quote no WP/SP/ISK/kills/assists(and you bet deaths will count) for actions taken in the redline! nothing more nothing less. the hit detection bug usually has to do with a clipping problem between you gun and the ground or objects in front of you. ...... most of the time.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.02.11 01:53:00 - [2] - Quote Nightbird Aeon wrote: You know why people snipe from the redline? Higher ground... simple as that. I played a game on Manus Peak last night, when I was lucky enough to have a giant building spawn right near the B objective. I climbed up there with my sniper rifle and a nanohive, and went 18-0. I had great lines of sight down into A and C.... but B was hard to cover, as I was so high above it and shooting down into it. I was also squad commander, so I was giving some great overwatch intel, and was well suited to drop my squad's 2 orbital bombardments. If you give more varied terrain around the map, snipers will move away from the red line because sight lines are better and targets are closer. That being said, there will always be people that hang out in the spawn and just camp there.... which is different from redline sniping. There is plenty of high ground out of the red line, people do it to pad stats or because they are incompetent or lazy, They do it to minimize risks while maximizing rewards, because the only way to get rid of them is a permanent sniper war, which no one wants because every one points like **** and its just down right boring. Remove the point incentive and you will remove 99% of redline snipers Im bumping this because, as much as its said, its not said enough. Red line sniping needs to go away, frankly I'm not completely for removing the redline, I would rather see that anything done in the redline gets no WP/SP/ISK and it does not count to your kills for the match (but your deaths still count), I want there to be no incentive to stay in the redline I genuinely believe this would keep more matches from going to red line because people would push out of the red line more aggressively to get some points or get out of the god damn match.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.02.11 02:02:00 - [3] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: Primarily, I am a tank pilot. I love driving me tanks. And in the map where there's mountains everywhere and rock formations in the middle (Not sure what it's called) One of two things are happening on that map. Sniper Swarm Launchers/Forge Guns or Snipers. Rarely will I ever see a heavy or an assault, or a logi for that matter. Different maps call for different class compisitions. Naturally you will be strong on one map, and weak in another. I've noticed that in Installation maps, my tank is a lot stronger as it has more cover to hide in and bank around. Snipers naturally have a much more difficult time on those maps. In open terrain maps with lots of visibility, those maps will favor the classes that rely on range. Such as snipers. In short, Tanks get Hate because they are OP in some maps where CQC is called for, why? Because they're nearly impossible to kill at CQ. They kill you (usually) faster before you can do anything about it. Snipers get hate because they are OP in some maps where Long range combat is called for, why? Because they're so far away that your AR, HMG, or SMG won't reach them, and you're at the mercy of their scopes. In short? All classes are working as intended. Having been playing a Sniper class the past few days, I feel that this insight is unbiased and largely true for any class that benefits from certain maps. the problem isn't losing a match because of getting sniped the problem is losing a match because of your waste of a team redline sniping, there should be no reason ever for matches to turn into sniping wars on the red line. that said the Idiots that use the insane depth of their red line to make it almost impossible to shoot them so they can pad stats by going 20-0(i'll admit to great respect for their skills) are borderline exploit users.