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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:35:00 -
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Would you like it? |
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Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:35:00 -
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Sure just get rid of their nade slot and you can have it.
Or sidearm and make it so they can only fit heavy weapons |
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Sleepy Zan
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:36:00 -
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There was a heavy suit on one of the EVE servers awhile back with an equipment slot and a light weapon slot instead of a heavy weapon one. |
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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:37:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Sure just get rid of their nade slot and you can have it.
Or sidearm and make it so they can only fit heavy weapons Nope, everyone has equipment. Why can't heavys. Atleast 1. In the Heavy A series. |
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Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:39:00 -
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No.
Heavies give up their equipment slots to have the most health and the biggest guns.
Also almost every heavy would take the armor repping nano hives. Giving them unprecedented staying powe on top of constant srmor and ammo restoration.
If they want that they should ahave to rely on a competent logi.
No one class should be able to do everything in th game or it defeats the purpose of having separate classes and hurts team play overall. |
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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:41:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:No.
Heavies give up their equipment slots to have the most health and the biggest guns.
Also almost every heavy would take the armor repping nano hives. Giving them unprecedented staying powe on top of constant srmor and ammo restoration.
If they want that they should ahave to rely on a competent logi.
No one class should be able to do everything in th game or it defeats the purpose of having separate classes and hurts team play overall. Ok. Logibro, where are you? |
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Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:45:00 -
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no just no |
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GeneralButtNaked
Burnwall Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:45:00 -
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Schazla wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Sure just get rid of their nade slot and you can have it.
Or sidearm and make it so they can only fit heavy weapons Nope, everyone has equipment. Why can't heavys. Atleast 1. In the Heavy A series.
I play a heavy all the time, and I do not agree with this. People already complain about running into heavies, imagine if we could function as the worlds nastiest medic train. Or could pack our own ammo. Four heavies, one who acts like a logi for the group, would be insane.
On top of all that, it betrays the very core of the class. High DPS, but needs constant support. |
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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:49:00 -
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Ok, ok. Where is my Logibro? |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.02.02 16:54:00 -
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yeah right then the heavy's skill into those armor repairing nano hives, use it with a armor heavy dropsuit and camp it all day long without getting killed. There is a reason why logis exist and heavys dont have a equipment slot. You have allready the ability to fit any weapon you like on a fat suit and much more health then any one else. If you would give them a equipment slot no one would ever play as assault and we end up with a game that contains 99% heavys. Alone the idea of giving them a equipment slot is stupid. Get 4 heavys, 2 of them have repair tools, 1 has a nanite injector and the other guy has nano hives. Unbeatable combo which would be gamebreaking. |
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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:01:00 -
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Ok, I get it. No equipment. |
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HowDidThatTaste
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:12:00 -
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I was thinking a slot just for nanite injector only would be good. Let the heavy repay some kindness to his fragile logie |
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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:13:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I was thinking a slot just for nanite injector only would be good. Let the heavy repay some kindness to his fragile logie :] Logibro |
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:15:00 -
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no, no, no and more no. |
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gbghg
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:20:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I was thinking a slot just for nanite injector only would be good. Let the heavy repay some kindness to his fragile logie He repays the logi by taking out enemies |
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:23:00 -
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No. No equipment for heavies. Those heavy suits are meant to work with a team and giving them any equipment slot will negate the need for support players. |
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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:25:00 -
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gbghg wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I was thinking a slot just for nanite injector only would be good. Let the heavy repay some kindness to his fragile logie He repays the logi by taking out enemies Ok. I have a nice armor module and repair. I think that will do. |
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:27:00 -
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yeahh i agree with all the vet heavys here. Equipment for heavys would be laughably OP |
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Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:28:00 -
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You're bad and you should feel bad. |
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Phoenix Archer 128
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:31:00 -
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TBH, I think Heavies should only be able to have a Heavy weapon in the Heavy slot (no light weapons), and like others have said, all Heavies would just have the Triage Nanohives if they had a equipment slot. |
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Schazla
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:34:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:You're bad and you should feel bad. Thank you. |
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:45:00 -
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No thanks.
I think every type of suit should have a suit specific module slot though, to really help give importance to your choice of suit. |
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Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:48:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:No.
Heavies give up their equipment slots to have the most health and the biggest guns.
Also almost every heavy would take the armor repping nano hives. Giving them unprecedented staying powe on top of constant srmor and ammo restoration.
If they want that they should ahave to rely on a competent logi.
No one class should be able to do everything in th game or it defeats the purpose of having separate classes and hurts team play overall.
Armor repping hives first have to fully rep armor before resupply and there is a delay in the rep and if getting shot wont regen armor same as shields dont regen until 5-10s after last damage done.
But still heavies should not get an equipment slot WITHOUT SACRIFICE, they need to lose a sidearm or more likely the grenade slot and it should be a variant at the advanced and proto levels.
But then again i dont play heavy and i can see how a full squad of heavies all with different equipment could really make them out of balance.
But whats gonna happen when people can start fitting HMG/FG on other suits? Granted they cant tank nearly as high as a heavy can but thats still one heck of a glass cannon squad. |
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:52:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I was thinking a slot just for nanite injector only would be good. Let the heavy repay some kindness to his fragile logie
no no no taste, we logi's who are about to die salute you, for we gladly give our connection to our current equipped suit for you to reign supreme. Besides if we cant use your fat-butt to be our meatshields properly then we did it wrong. |
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:03:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote: But whats gonna happen when people can start fitting HMG/FG on other suits? Granted they cant tank nearly as high as a heavy can but thats still one heck of a glass cannon squad.
Since when are either HMGs/ FGs not going to be heavy weapons or the other suits getting a Heavy slot?
I don't see either happening at all |
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Andius Fidelitas
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:06:00 -
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When played properly, a heavy merc IS the equipment. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
- He dispenses ammo (towards the foe) - Insures spare spawning locations (by killing any idiot trying to take a node) - Prevents mates from dying (By bravely getting in the way of fire). - Is a walking living mine (Especially with a forge gun).
Equipment?? Heavies have no need for no stinkin' equipment. I emphasize again, they ARE all the equipment you will ever need. |
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gbghg
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:11:00 -
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Andius Fidelitas wrote:When played properly, a heavy merc IS the equipment. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) - He dispenses ammo (towards the foe) - Insures spare spawning locations (by killing any idiot trying to take a node) - Prevents mates from dying (By bravely getting in the way of fire). - Is a walking living mine (Especially with a forge gun). Equipment?? Heavies have no need for no stinkin' equipment. ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) I emphasize again, they ARE all the equipment you will ever need. +1 |
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:20:00 -
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Andius Fidelitas wrote:When played properly, a heavy merc IS the equipment. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) - He dispenses ammo (towards the foe) - Insures spare spawning locations (by killing any idiot trying to take a node) - Prevents mates from dying (By bravely getting in the way of fire). - Is a walking living mine (Especially with a forge gun). Equipment?? Heavies have no need for no stinkin' equipment. ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) I emphasize again, they ARE all the equipment you will ever need.
as a heavy, i approve this message
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KEROSIINI-TERO
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:53:00 -
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no |
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Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.02.02 18:55:00 -
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Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote: But whats gonna happen when people can start fitting HMG/FG on other suits? Granted they cant tank nearly as high as a heavy can but thats still one heck of a glass cannon squad.
Since when are either HMGs/ FGs not going to be heavy weapons or the other suits getting a Heavy slot? I don't see either happening at all
There is a trailer that clearly shows a caldari assault suit rocking a FG ill try to find it.
Its mainly a rumor atm but one that seems to be held commonly by a lot of people that i speak to that have been right about many changes that have occurred. |
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Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.02 19:03:00 -
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Heavy suit trades equipment for heavy weapon, and trades speed for tank.
A variant that has light weapon instead of heavy and has equipment slot would be fine
An assault with no equipment slots and a heavy weapon would be fine, turn speed penalty for having it equipped should be higher then heavy though.
Both would be a halfway between assault and heavy, only making one of the trade offs heavies make.
[*] A heavy that keeps it's heavy weapon and gets a equipment would be unbalanced. |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.02 19:03:00 -
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oh yeah you mean the magical trailer where a LAV gets 1 hit killed by a blaster tank or the LAV shots down a dropship with a single missile, fully auto small railguns, Assaults with forgeguns, rouge drones that behave better then blueberrys. In my opinion you take that trailer way to serious. |
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Gelan Corbaine
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Posted - 2013.02.02 20:55:00 -
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Andius Fidelitas wrote:When played properly, a heavy merc IS the equipment. ![Twisted](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) - He dispenses ammo (towards the foe) - Insures spare spawning locations (by killing any idiot trying to take a node) - Prevents mates from dying (By bravely getting in the way of fire). - Is a walking living mine (Especially with a forge gun). Equipment?? Heavies have no need for no stinkin' equipment. ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) I emphasize again, they ARE all the equipment you will ever need.
Bring's a tear to my eye this ...... |
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Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.02 21:01:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Sure just get rid of their nade slot and you can have it.
Or sidearm and make it so they can only fit heavy weapons
I would accept either limitation |
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