DUST Search - Balance changes needed

Shay Sevila wrote:

I'm pretty pissed off at the moment so excuse this bit of a rant. I've been playing this game for a few days and it's a great game. Been having lots of fun with it. I just finished a match though that has basically wiped any interest I had in this thing.

The opposing team was rolling around the area with like 3 tanks. My team consisted of basically people with just standard beginner equipment. So we couldn't even approach any capture points because a tank would be sitting there and wiping all of us out. I decided I would be the smart one and switched over to the anti-armor starter dropsuit, which I thought was going to help with eliminating those things. The rocket launcher barely scratched them. We ended up losing the match due to our clone reserves running out and they still had like 110 left over. That was complete BS.

Something needs to be done about stuff like that. I'm not sure what, but there needs to be some sort of changes to make sure fights are relatively fair.

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Tbone322 D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 124	Posted - 2013.02.02 16:51:00 - [31] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Tbone322 wrote: At the risk of being flamed, I kind of think there should be some kind of vehicle limit in pub matches. LAV's would be limitless, but limit tank numbers so that one team can only have 2 tanks more than the other team. I realize this is New Eden and players need to HTFU, but the fact is that we need players. The more game modes we want the more players we need to support those modes. If a noobs first experience with the game is against 3 tanks they're probably gonna leave. I don't want to dumb this game down, but simple limitations in Pub matches aren't gonna hurt anybody. there is a limit.... That's right, I forgot. Isn't it 5 vehicles per team? I'm thinking there should be an actual Tank limit. Why would you ever need 5 tanks in a Pub match. I realize CCP has bigger things to worry about right now, but I would like to see some type of limitation in Pub matches in the future. When Null sec is introduced that will fix a lot of these types of problems, but until then I don't see a problem with limiting the number of tanks on each team.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 915	Posted - 2013.02.02 16:57:00 - [32] - Quote Shay Sevila wrote: I'm pretty pissed off at the moment so excuse this bit of a rant. I've been playing this game for a few days and it's a great game. Been having lots of fun with it. I just finished a match though that has basically wiped any interest I had in this thing. The opposing team was rolling around the area with like 3 tanks. My team consisted of basically people with just standard beginner equipment. So we couldn't even approach any capture points because a tank would be sitting there and wiping all of us out. I decided I would be the smart one and switched over to the anti-armor starter dropsuit, which I thought was going to help with eliminating those things. The rocket launcher barely scratched them. We ended up losing the match due to our clone reserves running out and they still had like 110 left over. That was complete BS. Something needs to be done about stuff like that. I'm not sure what, but there needs to be some sort of changes to make sure fights are relatively fair. I haven't read the rest of the thread yet, so I apologize if this was covered already. Here are my questions for you: 1. In what games do new players have equal footing with more advanced players? 2. Did you communicate with your squad mates? 3. Did you customize any of your fittings (even the starter fittings can be customized to make them more effective)? 4. Did you change tactics other than the swarm launcher (i.e. sniping, get behing them; flank the infantry on foot, etc)? 5. Have you considered you were just plain outmatched? 6. Did you buy and bring in your own tank (if you've been playing for a few days you would have enough ISK and there are no skill requirements)? Botttom line sometimes you get owned, but in this game its about teamwork and thinking dynamically.
Andius Fidelitas Algintal Core Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.02.02 18:18:00 - [33] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Luther Mandrix wrote: Question is a Titan balenced with a frigate answer No Is a Super Capital balenced with a frigate Answer No Is one Titan balenced against one Capital I don't think so. This game is way above just bullets. Cough, it was because of a frigate the first titan ever died. is an industrial (18 wheeler) imbalanced against a battleship (main battle tank)? maybe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6so9AT4UydQ QFT Good sir.
Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2013.02.02 18:31:00 - [34] - Quote I make amateur tankers cry and run with militia swarms (and as of last night militia forge gun) Dedicated tankers take a bit more effort to take down, but 2-3 AV-equipped folks can make most tanks run and hide pretty fast. Also, I <3 LAVs, free points!
Shay Sevila Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.02.02 22:31:00 - [35] - Quote Tbone322 wrote: At the risk of being flamed, I kind of think there should be some kind of vehicle limit in pub matches. LAV's would be limitless, but limit tank numbers so that one team can only have 2 tanks more than the other team. I realize this is New Eden and players need to HTFU, but the fact is that we need players. The more game modes we want the more players we need to support those modes. If a noobs first experience with the game is against 3 tanks they're probably gonna leave. I don't want to dumb this game down, but simple limitations in Pub matches aren't gonna hurt anybody. This person gets it. I'm not saying the game should be holding a person's hand and everything should be easy, but if matches are going to end up being that unfair, then newer players are going to stop playing the game. This game won't survive if the player base isn't expanding. It's also not a matter of being all hardcore and elite cause this is the Eve universe and that's how we roll type of thing. I might be new to this game but I'm not new to these types of games and also just gaming in general. I can see when things could use a bit of fine tuning. But like I said, it's not necessarily a top priority at the moment. There's more important things to fix first. At some point the matchmaking system will need to be adjusted though, there's no denying that.
Shock Pilot Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.02.03 00:12:00 - [36] - Quote I'm a tanker and it does not take much for me to hit reverse. Your team was the issue, everyone should have gotten swarms and well "swarmed" the tanks. Just like here and in real life AT weapons are meant to be shot in volleys from multiple people. I have never seen more than 2 tanks before, that was bad luck. Also just a starter fit anti-armor will not be as good as someone who has trained up the skill. The same would go for a sniper starter fit, it will not be as good as a trained sniper.
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD Legacy Rising 53	Posted - 2013.02.03 00:50:00 - [37] - Quote If you playing with pubs expect random allies, and enemys You can get massacred no matter what they use, could be assault rifes, heavy's or anything else. Play allot of games, realized some are stacked in your favor and against depending on who you got.


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