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        |  Vermaak Doe
 SVER True Blood
 Unclaimed.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.01 05:47:00 -
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 Basically, less effective versions of the current light weapons we have. Something along the lines of the upcoming scrambler rifle to the scrambler pistol and the mass driver to the flaylock pistol. (Note: these are just hypothetical examples based on how I think those weapons will work) Here are a few examples I thought of:
 
 PDW
 
 Long story short a miniature Ar. It's total range would be shorter than the Ar and it's rate of fire lower than the Smg but what it lacks compared to the Ar it would gain over the Smg and vice-versa. I could see this becoming the main line of defense for Av users without giving them the full flexibility of an Ar.
 
 Sawed off
 
 It wouldn't be an actual sawed off shotgun, just an overall less effective shotgun, possibly gaining a higher rof over the regular one, just having a slightly less effective range. I could reasonably see it as being a point blank weapon so that the current shotgun is better in most cases.
 
 More suggestions will come after being thought out.
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        |  Jackof All-Trades
 Bojo's School of the Trades
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.01 11:39:00 -
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 Whilst the PDW and the Sawed Off aren't that much of an attractive option...
 Sidearms do need more attention.
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        |  Don Von Hulio
 UnReaL.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.01 12:21:00 -
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 Id be ok with Burst shot pistols, Uber Magnum Pistol that shoot exploding rounds (single shot break over behemoth, low total ammo)
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        |  Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei
 Osmon Surveillance
 Caldari State
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.07 13:14:00 -
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 Bump
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        |  S hift
 Paladin Survey Force
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.07 14:35:00 -
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 Rail Pistol.
 
 Shoots large caliber bolts has about 5 rounds per clip requires 4 shots to kill. 5 shots for heavies. Has a maximum effective range of 90 meters.
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        |  Knarf Black
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
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      | Posted - 2013.02.07 14:45:00 -
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 I want a weak scoped pistol with crazy long range. Mostly to distract and annoy people.
 
 I think a laser pistol would be nice to have, too, or a double barrel mini Mass Driver pistol.
 
 Where's CCP Wolfman when you need him?
 
 Brainwave: what about a laser targeting pistol? Pull the trigger to unleash a harmless, highly visible red laser that lights up targets on friendly radar or even for capsuleers. (Alternate way to earn player OBs?)
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        |  Vermaak Doe
 SVER True Blood
 Unclaimed.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.17 03:15:00 -
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 Onward, I love these ideas Too
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        |  Jathniel
 G I A N T
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.17 04:30:00 -
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 Yep. I like this. Pocket shotgun. Or pocket AR.
 
 Just proposed making full-auto ARs a sidearm.
 
 Just NOW saw your thread. Genius.
 
 Starting to figure, we should just eliminate the Sidearm slot all togehter, and just go with 2 weapon slots. Let the CPU/PG decide what we can and can't carry.
 
 Going to link both of our threads. This would settle a lot of bull ****.
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        |  Jathniel
 G I A N T
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.17 06:13:00 -
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 Important enough to get more feedback from others.
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        |  Vermaak Doe
 SVER True Blood
 Unclaimed.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.17 06:41:00 -
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 I like both ideas, but this one seems a bit more reasonable even though yours would be easier to implement
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        |  Jathniel
 G I A N T
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.17 11:08:00 -
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 Some people responding to my idea talk imply a disparity that just is NOT there.
 They have fought Heavies and Scouts equipped with ARs before.
 They have seen shotgun as main, and AR as secondary already with the recent 'Black Eagle'.
 Not a single aspect of any of these has broken the game in any way.
 
 The only penalty that would be suffered is dramatically reduced available cpu/pg for high, low, and equipment slots.
 The only suit that would have been able to exploit AR-sidearms to the fullest degree would have been the logi suit... but it only has ONE weapon slot, so that settles that. lol
 
 There is NOTHING game breaking/balance upsetting about my idea nor yours, and it would actually increase player options.
 
 I encourage people to go ahead and take their Black Eagle fits, and put a sniper in place of the shotgun! Or a burst assault rifle! Or another assault rifle! Or a swarm launcher or a mass driver(if you can fit it!), and just answer these questions:
 
 What happened when you did? Did you insta-pwn the game? Did you break the game?
 Did you change the entire course of a battle just because you had an AR as a sidearm?
 If you had a pack of nanohives on that build would you consider it OP? What about one repper? Or 66 extra shield points?
 Because if you have an AR as a side arm, you're not fitting on much else, especially if you throw a duvolle on.
 
 What's being proposed is not unreasonable.
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        |  Negris Albedo
 Nuevo Atlas Corporation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.03.18 11:05:00 -
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 I like the idea of a Personal Defense Weapon. Submachine guns work well at close-range, perhaps just as well as assault rifles, but that's the only environment they work well at. And also it's worthless against a healthy shielded target, though an optimal weapon for finishing off weakened adversaries. I would like to see a sidearm with the versatility of an Assault Rifle, even if it means giving up on some damage potential and a bonus against armor.
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