If you're in the redzone, you get no sp for being in battle. BAM DONE FIXED.

80% of the sp you get is just from being in a battle.
But being in the redline is not being in battle.

Mercy rule. If no one has taken a letter in "x" minutes. Game ends. Get out of the red line or the game is over.

Mercy rule. If no one has taken a letter in "x" minutes. Game ends. Get out of the red line or the game is over.

Mercy rule. If no one has taken a letter in "x" minutes. Game ends. Get out of the red line or the game is over.

This is the real fix. People aren't getting the actual problem here. The problem is that one team has beaten the other team so severely they're pushed back to their spawn. The game is, for all intents and purposes, over. One team has won, and the other team is being farmed. CCP needs to modify how Skirmish games work so that when such a state is reached, the game rapidly draws to a close, and people get to move on to a game which is hopefully better balanced and thus fun to play.

There should be a retreat Option for the defending team. Or a system where the MCC just leaves after a while of your team doing nothing, because it's like, **** you guys.

Haha what you don't lose for getting pushed back to the red zone. If you all pile in one at a time in a straight line maybe. But I can solo take back two points because no one is defending the back. The whole team is at your red zone, GO AROUND THEM.

There should be a retreat Option for the defending team. Or a system where the MCC just leaves after a while of your team doing nothing, because it's like, **** you guys.

My .02 ISK on redlining, which seems to be what this topic veered off toward. I thought the OP was about abusing the redzone. My idea on that topic is to get rid of passive SP altogether, since the skill system is so fair and diagonal in terms of progression.

Anyway, on redlining, one idea is to have each team's territory covered on the radar in dashed light blue lines for their members to ensure that players know where they are relatively safe, or at least in their base territory. They won't rush out of it when redlining is occurring... maybe...

A second idea is to have another game mode, Destruction (or Annihilation), where the opposing MCC must be destroyed at all costs. When all null cannons have been hacked by one side for some time (typically the other side will be redlined), the opposing MCC attempts to retreat (I don't know if this breaks lore though, because I do not know the range of the null cannons) so the succeeding team must board the MCC. If they lose this match, they have a respawn penalty so the other team gets time to shape up, get a better position, and take over installations (Don't know why in the lore, but it'd help the team). This does not fix a bad team, so it's just an idea for a game mode having to do with redlining.

I thought the game mode, considering it's name, makes sense, since Ambush has players ambushing due to the "cruddy" respawn system, skirmish has players attempting to blow up the enemy's MCC but they aren't intent on destroying it at all costs even if it's retreating, and Destruction/Annihilation has the players attempting to destroy the enemy's MCC at all costs. Skirmish could also be updated to have the enemy MCC retreat some time after all null cannons have been hacked, so there's three separate win conditions: deplete clone reserves, blow up enemy MCC, or make enemy MCC retreat by hacking all null cannons.


Should this thread be in Feedback/Requests?

so that just forces the people you have redlined to just quit the game. There is nothing that can make players come out of the redline (by their choice) , just so you or I will have a target in our cross hairs.

Mercy rule. If no one has taken a letter in "x" minutes. Game ends. Get out of the red line or the game is over.