DUST Search - Why bother driving a Tank? How they need to be Fixed.

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Landari Zeta wrote:

I love tanks. I really do. I have one problem about them though.

They aren't OP.

You are all probably thinking, "Wow what a tard, wanting OP tanks!"
Everything else is OP, why not have the tanks scale up with the rest of everything?

Lets think about it for a minute. A tank should be an Infantry Support vehicle. It should make a presence on the battlefield, forcing infantry to take cover and call in their own tanks to kill you.

During WWII the Sherman tank was meant to keep infantry huddled up in a corner until they can call in some air support or have a Tiger take it out. That is how tanks should be handled, like they were originally designed. Every German soldier didn't have an Anti-Tank rocket, why should everyone in DUST? I felt like this was the same problem in Battlefield. There is just no incentive to get into a tank knowing everybody and their grandmother have access to a powerful Anti-Tank solution immediately upon respawning.

The tanks in DUST have two problems: they have no splash damage and they die WAY too quickly by infantry, the one thing they are supposed to suppress. Even a well tanked Soma can die to a single newbie with a Militia Swarm Launcher or Militia AV Grenades.

"Well try to not get in a bad position to get hit with AV Grenades," some of you may say. That isn't the point. People should be saying, "Oh my God they have a tank," instead of ,"Sweet Jesus a full tank! Free Points!"

Now onto tank damage. Its big, but only against other vehicles. Sure, you can just keep popping jeeps with a 80GJ Railgun but I feel that is NOT what a tank should be meant for. Just killing Jeeps. So I would like to see splash damage. Not necessarily from the Railgun, but from the Blaster too.

The Railguns I can see having low splash damage. Its a solid chunk of non explosive metal streaking to its target.

Blasters on the other hand need to change. Having to hit someone square in the chest 4-6 times with a Large tank mounted weapon seems completely idiotic. It's a Large Blaster, not a machine gun. Blasters in the EVE universe fire "globs" of superheated plasma at a target. It should at least have some splash damage.

But that is just my two cents. I understand half of you will disagree with me, but as a Tank driver I just want to express my ideas.

I put forward a suggestion in a thread I made a few weeks back to redo our current HAVs to be Tank Destroyers, and release the MAV as a "tank", since you used WWII as an example.


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137H4RGIC WarRavens 26	Posted - 2013.02.03 01:45:00 - [1] - Quote OP, you're just not a smart tank driver. I drive a completely Militia fit tank and effectively get average 20 kills and 2-3 deaths per match. Sometimes I go 30-1. If you're dying as much as you say you are, you're doing it wrong. Part of driving a good tank is having a good team that you can rely on to watch other fields of view. If you have no targets, let your front gunner spot them for you. Use your turret to get your rear right and your top turret to get your rear left. When it comes to killing infantry, I think the blaster turret is well balanced. You SHOULD NOT be able to kill infantry in 1-2 shots. THAT would be OP. Also, work on your driving skills/situational awarenees. Having a mental layout of the place can help you avoid being blown up as you can be rather evasive. By the the enemy team is sick of fighting my tank, half of them are fit up with AV fits. The best part about that, is I let the Blueberries do their jobs. I don't get bloodthirsty and try to make that next kill (well, sometimes I do, and it usually gets me killed, but it's rare). Being that the enemy team is half AV, that allows your team of assault and heavies. Those boys will tear up the AV if you let them. As far as tanks go, if you get a REALLY high KDR, that's because the enemy team won't stop and buckle down to take you out. If you're against a skilled team, you'll need to rely on your blueberries more, accept the fact you won't get many kills as you're the biggest target on the field, and be happy with the 8+ kills that you do get. Your role is EXTREME suppressive cover fire. Quit QQing and start driving better and recognizing your role. Sincerely, Caldari Militia Blaster Tank Pilot Avg K/D 20/2
137H4RGIC WarRavens 26	Posted - 2013.02.03 02:43:00 - [2] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Landari Zeta wrote: I love tanks. I really do. I have one problem about them though. They aren't OP. You are all probably thinking, "Wow what a tard, wanting OP tanks!" Everything else is OP, why not have the tanks scale up with the rest of everything? Lets think about it for a minute. A tank should be an Infantry Support vehicle. It should make a presence on the battlefield, forcing infantry to take cover and call in their own tanks to kill you. During WWII the Sherman tank was meant to keep infantry huddled up in a corner until they can call in some air support or have a Tiger take it out. That is how tanks should be handled, like they were originally designed. Every German soldier didn't have an Anti-Tank rocket, why should everyone in DUST? I felt like this was the same problem in Battlefield. There is just no incentive to get into a tank knowing everybody and their grandmother have access to a powerful Anti-Tank solution immediately upon respawning. The tanks in DUST have two problems: they have no splash damage and they die WAY too quickly by infantry, the one thing they are supposed to suppress. Even a well tanked Soma can die to a single newbie with a Militia Swarm Launcher or Militia AV Grenades. "Well try to not get in a bad position to get hit with AV Grenades," some of you may say. That isn't the point. People should be saying, "Oh my God they have a tank," instead of ,"Sweet Jesus a full tank! Free Points!" Now onto tank damage. Its big, but only against other vehicles. Sure, you can just keep popping jeeps with a 80GJ Railgun but I feel that is NOT what a tank should be meant for. Just killing Jeeps. So I would like to see splash damage. Not necessarily from the Railgun, but from the Blaster too. The Railguns I can see having low splash damage. Its a solid chunk of non explosive metal streaking to its target. Blasters on the other hand need to change. Having to hit someone square in the chest 4-6 times with a Large tank mounted weapon seems completely idiotic. It's a Large Blaster, not a machine gun. Blasters in the EVE universe fire "globs" of superheated plasma at a target. It should at least have some splash damage. But that is just my two cents. I understand half of you will disagree with me, but as a Tank driver I just want to express my ideas. I put forward a suggestion in a thread I made a few weeks back to redo our current HAVs to be Tank Destroyers, and release the MAV as a "tank", since you used WWII as an example. Not a good idea, tanks can already be set up as tank destroyers just attach rail guns, tanks dont need to worry about tank destroyers - additionally that's a pretty narrow role to fill for a vehicle class.