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Oxskull Duncarino
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:32:00 -
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56 truth wrote:just hear me out, so as i was board and had some money on hand i want skill book shoping buyed a most of the skill books i can get and dump my skill points more or less evenly and tested the hmg and going to test few others as well, now i have not played a lot a shooters after the "golden days"( if you will) but this gun has no delay i mean non at all and i was able to get my first blood more or less right out of the gate now i just started using it but maybe a delay of sort like a real hmg or gattling gun would at least keep the qqing on the down low other wise it seems like a fair gun (and i keep in mine that i have 154 deaths and 19 kills so i may not be the best to judge)
There are plenty of threads on this. the OP might want to try the search next.
Real HMGs are more or less instant fire. Once the trigger is pulled, the bolt which is generally in the open position will shoot forward loading a round and firing it. Modern day Gatling like guns, like the Vulcan or the Minigun, have about 0.3 of a second between pulling the trigger and the gun firing full auto. Seeing as this game is a wee bit in the future  this would be further refined.
The heavy at present will of course feel a bit OP, as there is a bunch of new folk in militia suits, only starting to learn the game. It does not need a nerf or extra added like 'spool up'. Just learn it's strengths and weakness'. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:42:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:
The heavy at present will of course feel a bit OP, as there is a bunch of new folk in militia suits, only starting to learn the game. It does not need a nerf or extra added like 'spool up'. Just learn it's strengths and weakness'.
the heavy will feel OP to a newberry when people like me are running a A-type with enhanced damage mods, an MH-82 HMG and 2x complex armor reps for max recovery. Of course it will feel OP until they get into an A-type assault suit with a GEK-38 and complex shield extenders or damage mods with reps in the lows.
Yeh, I've been hit by a few of them shiny assaults already. I haven't got the heavy A-series yet, so they hurt me bad  I'm happy to have them there as they help to rein in my Rambo desire.
56 truth wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:56 truth wrote:just hear me out, so as i was board and had some money on hand i want skill book shoping buyed a most of the skill books i can get and dump my skill points more or less evenly and tested the hmg and going to test few others as well, now i have not played a lot a shooters after the "golden days"( if you will) but this gun has no delay i mean non at all and i was able to get my first blood more or less right out of the gate now i just started using it but maybe a delay of sort like a real hmg or gattling gun would at least keep the qqing on the down low other wise it seems like a fair gun (and i keep in mine that i have 154 deaths and 19 kills so i may not be the best to judge) There are plenty of threads on this. the OP might want to try the search next. Real HMGs are more or less instant fire. Once the trigger is pulled, the bolt which is generally in the open position will shoot forward loading a round and firing it. Modern day Gatling guns, like the Vulcan or the Minigun, have about 0.3 of a second between pulling the trigger and the gun firing full auto. Seen as this a wee it in the future this would be further refined. The heavy at present will of course feel a bit OP, as there is a bunch of new folk in militia suits, only starting to learn the game. It does not need a nerf or extra added like 'spool up'. Just learn it's strengths and weakness'. thanks four you imput and updating my gun knowledge (here in canada it a pain in the ass to get a gun, so first hand experans is low in none)
Glad to help bud.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:44:00 -
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56 truth wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Oxskull Duncarino wrote:
The heavy at present will of course feel a bit OP, as there is a bunch of new folk in militia suits, only starting to learn the game. It does not need a nerf or extra added like 'spool up'. Just learn it's strengths and weakness'.
the heavy will feel OP to a newberry when people like me are running a A-type with enhanced damage mods, an MH-82 HMG and 2x complex armor reps for max recovery. Of course it will feel OP until they get into an A-type assault suit with a GEK-38 and complex shield extenders or damage mods with reps in the lows. hey now im not a newberry i just suck and i think i have die to everything perrty evenly besides av's as i love playing chicken with them...
Some of ye lot playing chicken with me have drawn me into the open and had a few buddies turn me into a sieve. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.01.30 00:02:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Though i wont say the gun is OP, it does have a few minor issues.
First off not a newbie so thats clear. Now when the standard, not adv or proto HMG is cutting me down from the hills above the retaining wall by B on the 4 letter map to inside and under the buidling by charlie thats a bit of a range issue even when im behind cover, using tactics and etc etc etc, its not my first rodeo so dont bother with the dumb commentary.
Another distance equivalent would be from the opening of the dividing wall above A on the same map to the top of the hill just above next to the tower closer to to D is a bit of a range issue. This well into the mid/mid-long terriorty and the absolute dumbfounding notion that the accuracy of the weapon is higher than AR's and maintains a higher and tighter cone the longer you hold the tirgger when the cone should be wider and sloppier (as any broadside, street sweeping close range destroy and shatter multiple enemies at will weapon should) the mechanics and statistics of the HMG weapon is simply off.
That said Heavies themselves are not OP in fact id say they are UP. The dropsuit needs more buff but that weapons class definitely needs a tweak in range, accuracy. With that change an increased RPM across the board and a slightly longer time to overheat to compensate for the reduction in accuracy and you have a true balanced "MINIGUN" the thing spools is it s a chain/gattling/minigun NOT an HMG.
I can't work out the map you're talking about! If you were getting hit in a range that an AR would hit you in then the assault HMG would be what might have shot you.
As to its grouping and name, it is a machine gun, and a heavy according to Dust. It is a Gatling like gun, what we call a minigun, due to its multiple barrels, which fire in sequence. It's not a chain gun. A chain gun is a single barrel auto cannon, that uses a drive chain to operate the reload and ejection mechanism. Check out the nose gun on the Apache helicopter for one of the most well known. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.01.30 19:46:00 -
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56 truth wrote:please read the first page befor you rip my a** to ribbons you guys, i mean come on it was my first time being a heavy.,...
Don't worry bud. Any constructive comments you seemed to listen to. Ignore the ones that just want to rant. They always stick their heads in at some stage. |
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