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NORIC verIV
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.29 03:26:00 -
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Heavies really only have two choices currently. While the HMG can be good in CQC its more meant to be a mid range and suffers from scouts who get in close.
I suggest creating a third heavy weapon that does not suffer from the HMG CQC shortfalls but has a short range.
The ideal weapon would be a short range large cone or aoe type weapon. Similar weapon types would be a powerful shotgun, smartbomb, or flame thrower.
A secondary role could be to break entrenched positions. A frontal shield could be utilized with a Heavy CQC weapon to clear out Infantry choke points. The shield would also make the CQC heavy more identifiable to shotgunning scouts, or Nova Knife Users.
This would be a niche role but one that would directly counter many tactics infantry use against heavies. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 03:57:00 -
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NORIC verIV wrote:Heavies really only have two choices currently. While the HMG can be good in CQC its more meant to be a mid range and suffers from scouts who get in close.
I suggest creating a third heavy weapon that does not suffer from the HMG CQC shortfalls at the expense of range.
The ideal weapon would be a short range large cone or aoe type weapon. Similar weapon types would be a smartbomb, or flame thrower.
A secondary role could be to break entrenched positions. A frontal shield could be utilized with a Heavy CQC weapon to clear out Infantry choke points. The shield would also make the CQC heavy more identifiable to shotgunning scouts, or Nova Knife Users.
This would be a niche role but one that would directly counter many tactics infantry use against heavies.
Sorry dude, I understand what yer trying to say here but the fatsuits need the tactical holes in their abilities to avoid "One True Build" Disorder. So I think point-blank is the wrong range to be buffing heavies in their roles of Infantry Support and Antivehicle combat. We do not need a MORE effective weapon for CQC, we need to focus on deploying more ranging shots.
how to do this in a balanced fashion is the question. the plasma cannon might do some of this. Or it might be a point-blank bashface weapon. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:10:00 -
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I wouldn't mind the heavy having the shotgun equivalent of a forge gun. Slow rate of fire, tons of damage, and the range of a nerd trying to throw a 2 ton anvil. Wrecks in extreme close quarters, but outranged by almost every gun.
EDIT: Read this as "I want heavies to be even easier to kill at range" |
NORIC verIV
DUST University
Ivy League
34
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:12:00 -
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I disagree that such weapon would be a 'one true build' or lack tactical holes. It would just shift the heavies tactical holes around forcing enemies to think, "what kind of weapon does this heavy have?"
In many ways its equivalent to a heavy wielding a powerful shotgun which many people would agree is only good in certain circumstances.
I thought about heavy range but the forge gun does a decent job. I've taken out a few snipers with one. Its tricky with no sights but doable. It also worked much better prior to the range nerf. For the long range, your asking for a heavy variant of the sniper rifle? |
NORIC verIV
DUST University
Ivy League
34
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:20:00 -
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Tregar Kerrigan wrote:I wouldn't mind the heavy having the shotgun equivalent of a forge gun. Slow rate of fire, tons of damage, and the range of a nerd trying to throw a 2 ton anvil. Wrecks in extreme close quarters, but outranged by almost every gun.
EDIT: Read this as "I want heavies to be even easier to kill at range"
That's a good way to see this gun. A heavy using one would be a free kill out in the open but would be devastating in say a room.
My secondary idea was to give the heavy extra (only frontal) shielding to give it a secondary role of choke busting in areas that can't be reached by HAVs or Dropships or OBs. A squad of MD users could do a similar job but i thought it would be fun for the heavy to fulfill that role as well. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:23:00 -
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I want a flamethrower.
But at this point I will take any new heavy weapon. |
I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:29:00 -
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Another version of the mass driver?
I'd like to see some more explosive weaponry. Something like a shotgun that shoots a bunch of tiny explosive rounds that stick into either the ground or dropsuit armor and then explode. |
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