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MR-NASTY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:11:00 - [1] - Quote Cause it is the best suit and rifle for everything in this game! I can own heavies and lazers at distance, sometime snipers. I can 1 v 1 every suit at mid range. At close range I kill almost everything except shot gunners and heavies, but I can easily out run hop a heavy and get distance and shoot them from afar. My question is why does anyone play any other suit? Pleas fellow AR guys get good and quit trying to nerf every other suit and class. I personally don't want it AR only.
THE-BEAST Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:23:00 - [2] - Quote I personally laugh at all this talk about nerfing this suit or that gun. The truth is the AR is the easiest gun in the game to use. And the most accurate. And the gek is lol OP. But shhh don't tell anyone. The assault suit class rules the battelfield. Every high kdr player in this game is A.) a tanker or B.) An assault suit. By far there are many more high KDR AR users than heavies just check the boards.
James-5955 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:31:00 - [3] - Quote THE-BEAST wrote: I personally laugh at all this talk about nerfing this suit or that gun. The truth is the AR is the easiest gun in the game to use. And the most accurate. And the gek is lol OP. But shhh don't tell anyone. The assault suit class rules the battelfield. Every high kdr player in this game is A.) a tanker or B.) An assault suit. By far there are many more high KDR AR users than heavies just check the boards. Heavy is really easy to get a high KDR with though. Usually hold a 5.0+ KDR with my heavy against stiff competition and higher against unknowns and thats with me playing stupid and not sticking to close/medium range areas. Redlining and getting sniped, or dying by the redline lol. Not saying that a high KDR with assault suit is difficult though. With how bad a lot of people are at this game it's easy to get high KDR with anything. The ARs are effective at all ranges yes, but they are definitely not the best at any. Also... AR/Assault are going to be most popular by default because it's the "standard". It fits the playstyle that most people are used to and many are going to stick to that and it's easy to adapt to and be good at right away because it's so familiar.
Morathi III Rebelles A Quebec 57	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:31:00 - [4] - Quote Disagree the AR is not OP, the AR get buffed in the last build and currently is fine you just dont see good player with other gun example: Marston VC with is laser, deadpool with is MD, exmaplecore with is heavy, calamity jane II with is shotgun are some example
Cosorvin DUST University Ivy League 45	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:32:00 - [5] - Quote MR-NASTY wrote: Cause it is the best suit and rifle for everything in this game! I can own heavies and lazers at distance, sometime snipers. I can 1 v 1 every suit at mid range. At close range I kill almost everything except shot gunners and heavies, but I can easily out run hop a heavy and get distance and shoot them from afar. My question is why does anyone play any other suit? Pleas fellow AR guys get good and quit trying to nerf every other suit and class. I personally don't want it AR only. I usually kill assault and AR all the time with my heavy but most the time the idiots charge me lol. But to be honest the gun and suit is versatile yet nothing special.
MR-NASTY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:43:00 - [6] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Disagree the AR is not OP, the AR get buffed in the last build and currently is fine you just dont see good player with other gun example: Marston VC with is laser, deadpool with is MD, exmaplecore with is heavy, calamity jane II with is shotgun are some example But look at their'kdr compared to people that use assault xprotoman23, regnum dei, they have a kdr of above 10 ! Calimity has a high kdr and runs shot gunner, you have one heavy with a 5 kdr maybe a handful total, but the average Are user is the 4 + range and there are many more higher than that than mg users. AR is the best weapon in the game by far!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:47:00 - [7] - Quote Maybe its true that they are just superior, but I think most people use assault suit and AR because its comes in free unlimited starter fits, and its what they get use to as a result. ARs and assault suits are super versatile though; every other suit and weapon exceeds in one area, but has a drawbacks in others except for assault and AR. Maybe those who are going beyond the starter fits and actually skilling into the AR and assault suit do it because they don't want to have to deal with drawbacks, and the versatility of the assault/AR combo is more desirable then committing to a suit and weapon that is so specialized. Why commit when you can have a bit of everything (decent speed, decent HP, sidearm unlike the logi, equipment unlike the heavy)? Assault suits also allow you to be self reliant since you don't necessarily need teamwork to succeed. So yeah, I wouldn't say its the best, but I can see why its more attractive to most people. Everything else is for a niche.
Anuliadon Gortusk Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:48:00 - [8] - Quote THE-BEAST wrote: By far there are many more high KDR AR users than heavies just check the boards. Well of course there are more high kdr AR users then heavies, 80% population of the pop plays solely AR haha
James-5955 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:49:00 - [9] - Quote MR-NASTY wrote: Morathi III wrote: Disagree the AR is not OP, the AR get buffed in the last build and currently is fine you just dont see good player with other gun example: Marston VC with is laser, deadpool with is MD, exmaplecore with is heavy, calamity jane II with is shotgun are some example But look at their'kdr compared to people that use assault xprotoman23, regnum dei, they have a kdr of above 10 ! Calimity has a high kdr and runs shot gunner, you have one heavy with a 5 kdr maybe a handful total, but the average Are user is the 4 + range and there are many more higher than that than mg users. AR is the best weapon in the game by far! Well, that's just a prime example of good players using the most versatile weapon in the game effectively against bad players. Thanks to the AR being a "jack of all trades" weapon, you aren't usually stuck in situations where you can't move forward or at a huge disadvantage... like being stuck out in an open area as a scout with a shotgun and having enemies engaging at a distance. Or being a heavy and being pinned at a range. Since the AR can perform at all ranges we can still manage our own as long as we have the skill to do so. With a HMG at a distance when pinned it really doesn't matter how good your aim is.
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 409	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:50:00 - [10] - Quote It is a SCI-FI game what do you expect them to use??? Lazors!

Morathi III Rebelles A Quebec 57	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:50:00 - [11] - Quote MR-NASTY wrote: Morathi III wrote: Disagree the AR is not OP, the AR get buffed in the last build and currently is fine you just dont see good player with other gun example: Marston VC with is laser, deadpool with is MD, exmaplecore with is heavy, calamity jane II with is shotgun are some example But look at their'kdr compared to people that use assault xprotoman23, regnum dei, they have a kdr of above 10 ! Calimity has a high kdr and runs shot gunner, you have one heavy with a 5 kdr maybe a handful total, but the average Are user is the 4 + range and there are many more higher than that than mg users. AR is the best weapon in the game by far! KDR dont mean your the best player dont forget, every class have is use in a game, compare assault rifle with other assault rifle with the KDR to see who is the best in is class
Lasarte Ioni Noob Gaming 72	Posted - 2013.01.27 22:11:00 - [12] - Quote Belzeebub Santana wrote: It is a SCI-FI game what do you expect them to use??? Lazors! WE NEED DA SCRAMBLER RIFLES!
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 642	Posted - 2013.01.27 22:13:00 - [13] - Quote instead of people raising their game, they call nerf. Simple as that. Playing as the easiest, and most versatile suit isn't enough anymore. Assault players want to 1v1 everything in this game, and if their lack of skill, or tears get in the way, they call for nerfs. QQ NERF HEAVIES! I CAN'T 1V1 THEM!!! WAAAAAA
James-5955 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.01.27 22:17:00 - [14] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: instead of people raising their game, they call nerf. Simple as that. Playing as the easiest, and most versatile suit isn't enough anymore. Some assault players want to 1v1 everything in this game, and if their lack of skill, or tears get in the way, they call for nerfs. QQ NERF HEAVIES! I CAN'T 1V1 THEM!!! WAAAAAA Fixed so you're not insulting and generalizing all people who play assault.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2013.01.27 22:54:00 - [15] - Quote AR's are easy to use and work in the most situations just as good as any other weapon. And the assault suit provides more HP then logis and scouts. Has a equipment slot to carry those precious nano hives and the mobility is aswell faster then on heavy's and logis. Both are a jack of all trades that why its used the most.
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. 320	Posted - 2013.01.27 23:52:00 - [16] - Quote My play style would have be use a scout suit and an AR.. But the scout suit bursts into flames if anyone looks at it.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.01.27 23:58:00 - [17] - Quote I hope CCP un-flattens the AR weapons, barely anybody uses anything but militia, Exile, or the standard AR. I used to HATE being killed by Gek's or proto AR's, but now I respect anybody who uses one and downs me with it. It's extremely rare I see a Gek or higher in a match.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2013.01.28 00:05:00 - [18] - Quote MR-NASTY wrote: Morathi III wrote: Disagree the AR is not OP, the AR get buffed in the last build and currently is fine you just dont see good player with other gun example: Marston VC with is laser, deadpool with is MD, exmaplecore with is heavy, calamity jane II with is shotgun are some example But look at their'kdr compared to people that use assault xprotoman23, regnum dei, they have a kdr of above 10 ! Calimity has a high kdr and runs shot gunner, you have one heavy with a 5 kdr maybe a handful total, but the average Are user is the 4 + range and there are many more higher than that than mg users. AR is the best weapon in the game by far! That's simply because they're good and you're bad.
Yay Adski Imperfects Negative-Feedback 133	Posted - 2013.01.28 00:11:00 - [19] - Quote Jack of all trades master of none. If you use something that is a master at something i.e shotguns and you lose at close to point blank range then that's your own fault. The AR is no way near as good as it use to be.
IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11	Posted - 2013.01.28 00:13:00 - [20] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: It's extremely rare I see a Gek or higher in a match. Part of that may be the recent reset. I'm seeing more and more Geks just today. I think many people went for shields before weapons, and in my opinion that's the right call. Also, about which suits are what... once I unlock that proto logi suit, you'll all (reddots) be screaming for a nerf. = D It'll be able to do anything better than most other suits, by sheer customization. Scout got ya down? 4 complex shield mods and a few good catalyzers and you'll be faster than they are, and much better shielded. Heavy beasting all over you? Same idea, but with more armor plates and damage mods. Etc... The four high/low slots (and at least 3 equip slots) are what's going to make this easily the most powerful suit in the game. It's versatility is top of the line. For example, a codebreaker and three catalyzers mean I'm running and hacking faster than those scout suits, straight out of the MCC, and finishing the hack before even THEY get there. It has the potential to outclass any suit at what that particular suit was designed for. Three armor plates, an armor repair, and 4 shield extenders will give you more hitpoints than a heavy, and you'll still move faster too. The nanohive/uplinks/injectors/repair tools are just the icing on the cake. P.S. There's all the silly fun stuff you can do too, like two catalyzers/melee enhancers mixed with sidearm damage mods and nova knives. = D Chasing a scout down and stabbing him to death is gonna be good fun. Or just putting shield rechargers and armor repair on, and constantly being at full health, even when you're being shot at. Not the most effective, but certainly super fun to consider. Possibilities really are limitless with this suit.

fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:23:00 - [21] - Quote @Iaml3rain sir I have great respect for your cunning and creativity.
Buzzin Fr0g KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:28:00 - [22] - Quote ARs should outnumber every other weapon by a significant margin. One weapon class has to be predominant. ARs are the workhorses of Dust Corps. They are the only truly versatile weapon. The other weapons on niche and should stay that way, being wielded by a relatively small percentage of players.
Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 334	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:41:00 - [23] - Quote Exactly Buzzin. I personally feel the only truly OP weapon in dust ATM is the sniper rifle. or more particularly, the "ease of use" of it.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:20:00 - [24] - Quote I don't disagree with you Buzzin but the AR and the assault have that in spades, yet there is an incessant cry to nerf every thing else. That is the issue, while the AR is the dominant force on the field people are trying to nerf every thing else. Frankly I think we have the best balanced weapons wise to date. The HMG and scout need to be returned to their intended roles, The HMG should melt every thing in its range which should be relatively short, not because of a short optimal but because of a large spray(think last build, although I would be happy to see the spray come down more then last build in the last 20-50 rounds before over heat), and the scout needs its speed back. Other then small tweaks every thing else is spot on. @ Orin the Freak, yes shooting from 4km away should not be as simple as putting a dot on someones body, there needs to be something done to bring the snipers down out of the hills. when I snipe I do much better as a field superiority sniper then as a sharpshooter with the added benefit of actualy being useful to my team unlike 90% of snipers. Maybe a bullet drop past 500-750m or something like that.
Ruyan Aldent Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 49	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:42:00 - [25] - Quote Well the fix to this will be once they add in more options. More guns like maybe LMGs, Rifles(they have lazer rifles but lazers are only used by amarr I believe they should change this to rifles so other factions can make one) also they will add in the different factional dropsuits and weapons at this point is where you will see more diversity on the battlefield.


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