The hop and pop!

Adapt or die. Looks like they adapted.


HTFU!

In the spirit of the Micro-Balance vs Macro-Balance thread here I want to address something that might indeed make a heavy with an HMG OP.

LAV's. As it stands, a Heavy can enter and exit a LAV instantly. This gives them amazing mobility. I'm sure some of you have fallen prey to the devastating assault of a Heavy riding up to a group of you solo,jumping out in optimum range,and moving you down. I'm sure some of you even are guilty of this devious trick.

The reason why this is OP is because it negates the Heavies biggest weakness; its lack of mobility. Using an LAV, a Heavy can get itself into it's optimum range with little to no threat to itself. It's ability to bail instantly gives it a lot of protection against AV; if the player is good enough and paying proper attention, he can anticipate the destruction of his LAV and not go down in flames himself.

I think, to balance this, giving heavies a .5 - 1 second delay before they can exit whatever vehicle would suffice. Makes perfect sense too, because those fat beasties would take a second to enter or exit a LAV while the more mobile suits could do so much faster.

What do ya'll think?

In the spirit of the Micro-Balance vs Macro-Balance thread here I want to address something that might indeed make a heavy with an HMG OP.

LAV's. As it stands, a Heavy can enter and exit a LAV instantly. This gives them amazing mobility. I'm sure some of you have fallen prey to the devastating assault of a Heavy riding up to a group of you solo,jumping out in optimum range,and moving you down. I'm sure some of you even are guilty of this devious trick.

The reason why this is OP is because it negates the Heavies biggest weakness; its lack of mobility. Using an LAV, a Heavy can get itself into it's optimum range with little to no threat to itself. It's ability to bail instantly gives it a lot of protection against AV; if the player is good enough and paying proper attention, he can anticipate the destruction of his LAV and not go down in flames himself.

I think, to balance this, giving heavies a .5 - 1 second delay before they can exit whatever vehicle would suffice. Makes perfect sense too, because those fat beasties would take a second to enter or exit a LAV while the more mobile suits could do so much faster.

What do ya'll think?

In the spirit of the Micro-Balance vs Macro-Balance thread here I want to address something that might indeed make a heavy with an HMG OP.

LAV's. As it stands, a Heavy can enter and exit a LAV instantly. This gives them amazing mobility. I'm sure some of you have fallen prey to the devastating assault of a Heavy riding up to a group of you solo,jumping out in optimum range,and moving you down. I'm sure some of you even are guilty of this devious trick.

The reason why this is OP is because it negates the Heavies biggest weakness; its lack of mobility. Using an LAV, a Heavy can get itself into it's optimum range with little to no threat to itself. It's ability to bail instantly gives it a lot of protection against AV; if the player is good enough and paying proper attention, he can anticipate the destruction of his LAV and not go down in flames himself.

I think, to balance this, giving heavies a .5 - 1 second delay before they can exit whatever vehicle would suffice. Makes perfect sense too, because those fat beasties would take a second to enter or exit a LAV while the more mobile suits could do so much faster.

What do ya'll think?

I run heavy or scout so whats the problem??

MILITIA scout suit AV grenade and SMG.
Got hate mai after killing a heavy HMG user: SMG cheater! my gun is better and my suit is better than your crap.

LOL!
I say in a few weeks lets go on a heavy killing rampage with just SMG when ever we see a HMG user since MILITIA suit and SMG are good for collecting QQ

this is the one intelligent "HMG heavies are OP!!" threads i have ever encountered, for once, as a heavy, i can agree, this is a clear exploit that isn't remotly realistic feeling. i know, i do this all the time. slowing the heavies exit, or something to the same effect would make it more effective.

it's quite obvious that people are usually unprepared for this tactic, an LAV running straight at you usually looks like an easy kill, till the heavy pops out and proceeds to kill them.

if there is one thing i can agree needs to be tweaked on the heavy, it's the ability to blitzkrieg the enemy using the LAV

Ah... The days when the heavies and the scouts tangoed.


scouts start shooting at you, You shoot back And you start to hope that their out of ammo.

Dual Calas SMG.
Shoot with the first one and if heavy is by some miracle still alive then switch to second Calas SMG.
Fun times.

Why can't people be like you guys and figure out how to counter heavies instead of going to the forums and playing the boy who cried nerf.

In the spirit of the Micro-Balance vs Macro-Balance thread here I want to address something that might indeed make a heavy with an HMG OP.

LAV's. As it stands, a Heavy can enter and exit a LAV instantly. This gives them amazing mobility. I'm sure some of you have fallen prey to the devastating assault of a Heavy riding up to a group of you solo,jumping out in optimum range,and moving you down. I'm sure some of you even are guilty of this devious trick.

The reason why this is OP is because it negates the Heavies biggest weakness; its lack of mobility. Using an LAV, a Heavy can get itself into it's optimum range with little to no threat to itself. It's ability to bail instantly gives it a lot of protection against AV; if the player is good enough and paying proper attention, he can anticipate the destruction of his LAV and not go down in flames himself.

I think, to balance this, giving heavies a .5 - 1 second delay before they can exit whatever vehicle would suffice. Makes perfect sense too, because those fat beasties would take a second to enter or exit a LAV while the more mobile suits could do so much faster.

What do ya'll think?

I run heavy or scout so whats the problem??

MILITIA scout suit AV grenade and SMG.
Got hate mai after killing a heavy HMG user: SMG cheater! my gun is better and my suit is better than your crap.

LOL!
I say in a few weeks lets go on a heavy killing rampage with just SMG when ever we see a HMG user since MILITIA suit and SMG are good for collecting QQ

You joke but i actually did just kill a HMG heavy using a MH-82 wearing a type 2 suit using nothing but a toxin while in route to kill a Madrugar with my Assault Forge. (Using a Type 1 and no points invested in SMG)

Breakin Stuff wrote:
Was going to troll. not worth it.

You're seeing the opposite end of the heavy issue before the reset. before the reset heavies were an absolute joke. The proto VK.1 suits cost 250,000 and the weapons cost 100k each on heavies, and even with proto mods you didn't have much benefit over the type II suits, which you need level 2 amarr heavy suit skill for.

Once your SP spike high heavies become less and less a threat as they are. But when everyone's in the level 1-3 dropsuits heavies have the advantage but do not benefit from the linear growth of the other suit types as far as suit tech goes.

they seem OP now, but it'll level off sharply soon. The ones that remain lethal will be the ones who know how to deploy their heavies in ways that force everyone else to play to their strengths.

But as far as heavies go, they'll pay 2-4 times what an assault will for fits, for not much greater advantage except in very specific circumstances, which heavies do their best to cause everyone to get sucked into.

Oh my yes, these new berries do not even have a clue what it is they are asking for.

Give it 2 months, and every Proto AR fit will start walking about with 650 EHP and without remorse shred heavies or any thing else in 30 rounds (1406.25 damage with max skills and no damage mods, that will give you the ability to kill us in 4-6 seconds even if you miss a couple rounds...) Even after this happens I am certain there will be a continued call for a heavy nerf until the DEV team actually hits us with one. Then the only thing that can be fielded is AR fit Shield Assault. For those of you who think that cant happen obviously were not playing back in September. Or even more recently as a member of a good corp match.

Lets face it the Logi doesn't have enough base EHP to be an effective force multiplier. The Scout is about 30% slower then it should be. The Assault is OP, im fine with it being so, hell I abuse it on my alt but come the fu*k on people. Look past your own shallow bias and smell the hypocrisy.

In the spirit of the Micro-Balance vs Macro-Balance thread here I want to address something that might indeed make a heavy with an HMG OP.

LAV's. As it stands, a Heavy can enter and exit a LAV instantly. This gives them amazing mobility. I'm sure some of you have fallen prey to the devastating assault of a Heavy riding up to a group of you solo,jumping out in optimum range,and moving you down. I'm sure some of you even are guilty of this devious trick.

The reason why this is OP is because it negates the Heavies biggest weakness; its lack of mobility. Using an LAV, a Heavy can get itself into it's optimum range with little to no threat to itself. It's ability to bail instantly gives it a lot of protection against AV; if the player is good enough and paying proper attention, he can anticipate the destruction of his LAV and not go down in flames himself.

I think, to balance this, giving heavies a .5 - 1 second delay before they can exit whatever vehicle would suffice. Makes perfect sense too, because those fat beasties would take a second to enter or exit a LAV while the more mobile suits could do so much faster.

What do ya'll think?