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Re-FLeX Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 152	Posted - 2013.01.27 09:39:00 - [1] - Quote Alright CCP I know you need money in order for this game to be successfull, but can you please make voice chat free? As of right now its hard for people to communicate just because of the fact that they don't have a UVT and it has been bugging me, my corpmates and alot of other people out there just because of the simple idea that they need to buy AURUM in order to use their mic on this game. I've also been trying to bring in alot of my friends into this game but because they don't wanna spend ''RL MONEYZ'' on this game they're testing out, the only way for me to talk to them is me going into squad chat. I've been feeling like ever since you guys put a price tag on voice chat my in-game buddies have been drifting apart. Kind regards, A concerned fan.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2013.01.27 09:57:00 - [2] - Quote why don't you all type? Or get a job to pay for UVT?
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2013.01.27 10:07:00 - [3] - Quote Re-FLeX wrote: corpmates CCP have previously indicated that either they plan for corporations to have ubiquitous free voice service in corp chat, or else they plan on providing a corp-wide UVT item, which single player can activate in order to enable voice service for the entirety of a corporation. The last comment we received was in December, before CCP's vacation. Here's the link to that: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=435434#post435434 Now CCP had their vacation, and quite a bit of work getting Dust onto Tranquility and then to open beta. Super kudos for it going a smoothly as it has. The fact that we haven't experienced something catastrophic involved with the transitions deeply impresses me on multiple levels (yes, even that one). Now's about time to get back to this comment, though. We don't have the corp UVT's, and we don't have corp voice functionality. Decreasing the price of UVT's was absolutely fantastic! They're in a great place now that makes sense on a player-per-player basis. That being said, it doesn't help with the people who simply won't pay a dime, and without a corp-wide version of the UVT there's simply no way for a sizable corp to afford corp voice chat for their membership. Even if you have the real money to pay $6/year for everyone in your corp somehow, the logistics of distributing UVT's correctly, and not experiencing huge numbers of freeloaders, would be staggering. Corp UVT's are still a necessity, and one we're still sorely lacking.
Ruyan Aldent Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 49	Posted - 2013.01.27 10:11:00 - [4] - Quote It cost like 50 cents per month. It aint a big deal. Also to be honest im proud to support this game by giving it a small bit of money aslong as they dont jack up the prices im fine with it.
Elena Peoples BetaMax. 9	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:03:00 - [5] - Quote If any of them cared about dust in the smallest amount, they'd get a UVT, I don't even work, and have no intention of ever going without one, and no I'm not leaching off parents. as someone noted, it's a couple cents nothing worth ever worrying about.
DeeJay One BetaMax. 9	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:06:00 - [6] - Quote Re-FLeX wrote: my corpmates and alot of other people out there just because of the simple idea that they need to buy AURUM in order to use their mic on this game. This statement is so false that I even lack the words to describe it. Please don't spread misinformation. As with any other FPS game out there in game squad and team chat are free. If you set up a squad pre battle you can talk for free.
Three Double-A Batteries Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:29:00 - [7] - Quote If the cost ain't that bad then why do it? Smells like a poorly thought out pay item that is just a barrier to entry.
Sam Slaid CrimeWave Syndicate 11	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:30:00 - [8] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: Re-FLeX wrote: my corpmates and alot of other people out there just because of the simple idea that they need to buy AURUM in order to use their mic on this game. This statement is so false that I even lack the words to describe it. Please don't spread misinformation. As with any other FPS game out there in game squad and team chat are free. If you set up a squad pre battle you can talk for free. What DJ said.. Free chat in squad and team means that it's not a pay to win feature. If CCP want to charge for social chatting I do not have an issue with that. It's not a huge amount,and you still have the option of forming a squad pre-battle, and social chatting in there, just as DJ pointed out. At the end of the day, CCP need to pay their Dev's somehow, so they need to generate an income from somewhere. As long as its not blatant pay to win in respect of core gameplay then I do not see how we can criticise them too heavily for how they achieve this in what is otherwise a free to play game.
Re-FLeX Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 152	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:30:00 - [9] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: Re-FLeX wrote: my corpmates and alot of other people out there just because of the simple idea that they need to buy AURUM in order to use their mic on this game. This statement is so false that I even lack the words to describe it. Please don't spread misinformation. As with any other FPS game out there in game squad and team chat are free. If you set up a squad pre battle you can talk for free. jenza aranda wrote: im also very strongly against this, most of the people in my corp constantly use corp voice so this is a huge problem for us... GTFO k?
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:32:00 - [10] - Quote Nice argument K.

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:37:00 - [11] - Quote Elena Peoples wrote: If any of them cared about dust in the smallest amount, they'd get a UVT, I don't even work, and have no intention of ever going without one, and no I'm not leaching off parents. as someone noted, it's a couple cents nothing worth ever worrying about. People are dropped into this game with no idea what's going on. How do you expect them to start caring before they can talk to people?
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2013.01.27 11:39:00 - [12] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: Re-FLeX wrote: my corpmates and alot of other people out there just because of the simple idea that they need to buy AURUM in order to use their mic on this game. This statement is so false that I even lack the words to describe it. Please don't spread misinformation. As with any other FPS game out there in game squad and team chat are free. If you set up a squad pre battle you can talk for free. I disagree with you, I have no intention to buy UVT or ever will because I consider voice chat a feature that has become common place among all games in the games industry. As I have said in the past, UVT is a very basic feature that is core to developing the games community that CCP are removing, from those who are unable or unwilling to purchase. To assume that statement is false is to show arrogance to the possibility - I am living proof of the op statement. I have always said UVT as a feature shouldn't be so basic. I believe it should be a part of advanced corp features that lets the corp expand it's communication and management. Yes UVT should be applied to unique channels like channel "superSecretChannel" as it's a waste of resources with no gain for ccp. But charging the individual (what ever the price) is not the correct course of action for something that is only useable when the community takes part. "A community feature, should come with a community price".
Drado Arona Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 64	Posted - 2013.01.27 12:29:00 - [13] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: unable or unwilling to purchase. Why are you on a computer which uses electricity, while at the same time purchasing an internet connection and playing a game if you can't even afford to buy something unreasonably cheap while at the same time unnecessary to pub matches. Nitpicking aside, you're getting a "free" game and they're still trying to find ways to keep making the game while keeping their devs alive. Staying alive costs money you know guys? (at least in "Civilized" countries.) So instead of complaining about how "This is unfair, we should get this for free because I can't pay for crap" Give them suggestions to find a BETTER way to make money so they don't have to do this voice chat crap we all so loathe (I don't really care.) tl:dr Give them suggestions on how they could make money or be quiet.
Sebastian Seraphim Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 25	Posted - 2013.01.27 12:46:00 - [14] - Quote I honestly think UVTs should be for local chat only, not for corporation chats and private chats. CCP's main reason for why voice chat is free on EVE is because there's the subscription and they need some other ways of making money via dust due to it being F2P. However, me and every other player who's played EVE or still plays it doesn't even use the voice chat in the EVE client, they use TS3 or Ventrillo or any other VOIP program because if their EVE client crashes, they still stay in voice chat on the TS3 server. We don't have TS3, the voice chat in DUST514 is all we have. Now unless there's a teamspeak download on PS3 soon, I'd rather have free corp voice chat OR like I've heard speculated, an ISK version of the UVT. And on ways to make money from DUST: 1. CCP have the income from EVE, obviously this isn't enough to cover both EVE and DUST but still there's income there. 2. DUST is barely finished so why the heck do we have to pay for something that can be a necessity at times? 3. Along with point number 2. Because DUST isn't finished, once more content comes out, CCP can use that content to produce Aurum versions of it and more ways of bringing in an income from DUST.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2013.01.27 13:29:00 - [15] - Quote Sebastian Seraphim wrote: 2. DUST is barely finished so why the heck do we have to pay for something that can be a necessity at times? yep - its a beta. If people want to spend arum on stuff all good. But to pay for a core feature of game that is in no way ready is just wrong. I thought CCP were against this in principle? Apparently people aren't going to be refunded the arum they spend in the open beta. Just WOW. (Only spent -ú1.59p - minimum amount - on this game so far for UVT, so feel sorry for those that are spending Arum (in a beta) and wont get it refunded)
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.01.27 13:56:00 - [16] - Quote It costs money to run those voice servers. I want all those peeps who think that UVT shoud be free for corp chat to go get a quote to a teamspeak server that can handle 100,000 players simultaneously with the same kind of incredible quality we're getting from voicechat atm in DUST. You are all asking for an exceptional handout from CCP. Where I come from that's called begging. They've already stated that they're looking at a corp UVT solution. That's good enough for me.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2013.01.27 14:02:00 - [17] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: It costs money to run those voice servers. true. But I dont find this argument as a reason to charge for corp chat as persuasive. It costs money to develop and run this game. You are extracting one cost centre and stating this cost must be identified and covered. When in fact costs for this game are going to be covered by CCP through arum weapons, suits, side grades, boosters etc.
DeeJay One BetaMax. 9	Posted - 2013.01.27 14:08:00 - [18] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: DeeJay One wrote: Re-FLeX wrote: my corpmates and alot of other people out there just because of the simple idea that they need to buy AURUM in order to use their mic on this game. This statement is so false that I even lack the words to describe it. Please don't spread misinformation. As with any other FPS game out there in game squad and team chat are free. If you set up a squad pre battle you can talk for free. I disagree with you, I have no intention to buy UVT or ever will because I consider voice chat a feature that has become common place among all games in the games industry. Well I didn't say I wouldn't like to have free corp chat. Only the OP implies that there's no voice chat whatsoever without UVT (and many players will think that, because the sentence "UVT is required for voice chat" is repeated time after time on the forums without adding "in the corp channel where are hundreds of people") and this is just untrue. I'd really, really like to have it. And when we're at it add default voice for Local (ok, now I'm just being mean ;) Sorry if you understood that I'm against free corp chat.
Drado Arona Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 64	Posted - 2013.01.27 14:18:00 - [19] - Quote I've still got to ask. Is anyone going to give a better suggestion on how CCP should go about making money or are we just going to keep arguing the same point that'l get us nowhere? As "free" voice chat will be nice (It already is in some cases) they STILL NEED TO MAKE MONEY. No money = no game No game = sad people Sad people = riots riots = apocalypse. Alright, so unless you're going to give a suggestion on how ccp can better make money you're just making the apocalypse come sooner (Kidding)
DTOracle Universal Allies Inc. 95	Posted - 2013.01.27 14:47:00 - [20] - Quote The UVT's allow for cross game/platform voice chat. & some of you seem to think, that it's a standard feature in all FPS' that should be free? Btw those games that offer 'free' voice chat, usually cost $60 in the first place. I can agree that CCP needs to instruct new players better & should have chat on by default. But the level of entitlement here is sickening.

Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 811	Posted - 2013.01.27 15:31:00 - [21] - Quote ITT: Entitled cheapskates
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2013.01.27 16:48:00 - [22] - Quote It's not about being cheap it's the principle. I've argued about this topic before so no point going into it. I'll just let time take it's course.
DRAlgernop Krieger Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2013.01.27 17:16:00 - [23] - Quote xAckie wrote: Sebastian Seraphim wrote: 2. DUST is barely finished so why the heck do we have to pay for something that can be a necessity at times? yep - its a beta. If people want to spend arum on stuff all good. But to pay for a core feature of game that is in no way ready is just wrong. I thought CCP were against this in principle? Apparently people aren't going to be refunded the arum they spend in the open beta. Just WOW. (Only spent -ú1.59p - minimum amount - on this game so far for UVT, so feel sorry for those that are spending Arum (in a beta) and wont get it refunded) Maybe I'm mistaken, but I read through some posts yesterday and saw all Aurum would be refunded after each wipe. Am I misinformed?


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