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Goat of Dover
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Posted - 2013.01.26 19:20:00 -
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I see your point on how it will help keep skirmish a playable mode once cap is reached. My issue is with the gap option #5 presents, no I will not deny that option #2 still presents the issue it is just on a smaller scale than #5.
I personally think that there should be a benefit for the hardcore to play nonstop everyday it is not fair for the not to be one really. They put in the time why don't they get something out of it. I want there to be no cap on the amount you can get, I just want the amount you can get to be limited so you do out run a lot of people.
As far as the WP gain per match I have a different opinion there. Personally I have a bad game if I get less than 1500 SP. I know that a lot of the Vets probably feel the same way. I usually run skirmish so it actually fits you 1000 WP per min on average not always though. These numbers can actually get really high with good Squad Commands. My squad actually had a game the other day where we together earned right under 9000 WP and it was a short game only like 9 min or so. But it was a match of smart farming where we let them hold one objective and they kept funneling out of it.
Again I see your point I just feel like #2 will keep the gap smaller and that is why I picked it and, Skirmish won't die hopefully because people prefer to play it. |
Goat of Dover
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Posted - 2013.01.26 19:47:00 -
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Also I don't feel that skirmish will not die because people will hit cap at separate times. That combined with people will still play skirmish because they prefer it for their play style will keep skirmish alive at the end of the week. Yes, Skirmish will die down towards Monday but, we are coming from a game that on a weekly cap was kinda dead at the end of the SP week anyway. |
Goat of Dover
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:07:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:1000k+ in ambush is more than doable, and especially on a consistent basis.
Drop in a (well fitted) blaster tank, collect your 30 kills, boom, 1500 points right there. Now frago that person, it's now 1800 points, add on a booster, 2700 points, and that's on kills alone, not including any vehicles, installations, or assists you may accrue. Since that player was able to dominate in his tank, that match ended faster, allowing him to get into his next match and repeat ad nauseam. Simply alternate between driver and gunner, (where as a gunner I went 31-0 two nights ago) between matches and you're good to go.
Yeah, there's still going to the /occasional/ match where you face resistance, or maybe only put up 20 kills, but even 20 kills can net you 2100 with a frago and booster.
Option #2.
Thanks for the numbers I was getting to those glad someone got to them before i did. Now I will state that this only applies to the best players since they are the ones that put up huge kills in ambush. But the best players are most of your hardcore population so that is a good reason for them to go for option #5. |
Goat of Dover
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:10:00 -
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Gunner Nightingale wrote:Scurvy Granger wrote:Goat of Dover wrote:But it was a match of smart farming where we let them hold one objective and they kept funneling out of it.
And this is what I'm talking about with "hardcore" players finding a way to exploit the no SP soft cap. They will leave an objective or allow an objective to be taken in order to boost their SP intake. I've done the same with my squads in the past so I know it will be seen more often if there is no SP soft cap. Hardcore players should be rewarded for playing more is saying that people that cannot play more often even though they want to should be punished. Where is the line drawn? I'm happy you have so much free time and don't have to work for a living but honestly telling me that since I have a family, a job, and less time for games that I should get destroyed every time I decide to play this game is worse than taking about half of your SP gain away. You'll still get more than me since you play more but at least it will be awhile before you can one shot me every time I appear.(I know one-shot is an exaggeration, but you get the idea) Hey jerkoff i think ive been more than polite and reasoned in my posts. Sorry you don't have time and you feel the need to peg me as a no lifer. Hate to break it to you but 1. Have a Medical Degree, yeah im a doctor eat it son!! 2. Actively pursuing a residency program as we speak. 3. Am a Clinical Research Scientist in Cardiac Electrophysiology(the electrical rhythm of the heart). 4. Have an active life outside of gaming(golf, dating, family(not my own but brothers, cousins, nieces with plenty of socialization) etc. 5. Just have a freakishly awesome quality of life. 6. Time management skills to balance it all. Next time you make assumptions just remember the cliche "When you assume you make an ass out of you and me".
Gunner I don't think he was hitting at you that was more of a hit at the hardcore population. It was just a very well laid our attack at the population that it would hit anyone of them that read it and some of the people who were not that way.
I think this because honestly it hit me the same way but I know that I do not fall into that category of hardcore. I do play a lot but I don't even hit my cap every day only most.
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Goat of Dover
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:13:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:Goat of Dover wrote:Also I don't feel that skirmish will not die because people will hit cap at separate times. That combined with people will still play skirmish because they prefer it for their play style will keep skirmish alive at the end of the week. Yes, Skirmish will die down towards Monday but, we are coming from a game that on a weekly cap was kinda dead at the end of the SP week anyway. Skirmish will not die down towards Mondays for one simple reason. You hit your cap during the week using Skirmish then play some ambush to best utilize time/SP gain, then on the weekends you'll join your corp matches and try to take control of planets, or right now better your faction in FW. You don't earn SP in corp matches anyway so there ya go problem solved. Option 2 is the best option anyway.
Eww good point didn't even take FW into account thanks for that. That was a really good one and, a good schedule to play by for some people. |
Goat of Dover
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Posted - 2013.01.26 20:24:00 -
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Scurvy Granger wrote:Gunner Nightingale wrote:Scurvy Granger wrote:Goat of Dover wrote:But it was a match of smart farming where we let them hold one objective and they kept funneling out of it.
And this is what I'm talking about with "hardcore" players finding a way to exploit the no SP soft cap. They will leave an objective or allow an objective to be taken in order to boost their SP intake. I've done the same with my squads in the past so I know it will be seen more often if there is no SP soft cap. Hardcore players should be rewarded for playing more is saying that people that cannot play more often even though they want to should be punished. Where is the line drawn? I'm happy you have so much free time and don't have to work for a living but honestly telling me that since I have a family, a job, and less time for games that I should get destroyed every time I decide to play this game is worse than taking about half of your SP gain away. You'll still get more than me since you play more but at least it will be awhile before you can one shot me every time I appear.(I know one-shot is an exaggeration, but you get the idea) Hey jerkoff i think ive been more than polite and reasoned in my posts. Sorry you don't have time and you feel the need to peg me as a no lifer. Hate to break it to you but 1. Have a Medical Degree, yeah im a doctor eat it son!! 2. Actively pursuing a residency program as we speak. 3. Am a Clinical Research Scientist in Cardiac Electrophysiology(the electrical rhythm of the heart). 4. Have an active life outside of gaming(golf, dating, family(not my own but brothers, cousins, nieces with plenty of socialization) etc. 5. Just have a freakishly awesome quality of life. 6. Time management skills to balance it all. Next time you make assumptions just remember the cliche "When you assume you make an ass out of you and me". I apologize, that was not directed toward any one person just used as an example, and honestly until you have a family and kids that always want your attention(unless taking a nap like right now) then you will ALWAYS have more time than me even working 60+ hours a week, which I also do sometimes.
No offense to Gunner or anyone in that feel it was aimed at them but +1 on the kids fact, man is that so true. |
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