DUST Search - Laser Rifles are way too Over Powered.

Baal Roo wrote:

Enkidu Camuel wrote:

Baal Roo wrote:

Enkidu Camuel wrote:

LR's are not OP, people need to realize that they're just IMBA, and also as everyone keeps stating: Snipers are the natural predator of a LR user, I am one of them and every time I shoot my LR in the open I need to keep my eyes open if I see the trails of the SR bullets flying close to me, if I got ambushed by several players I can dispatch one or two with my SMG, unless they have quick fingers or better weapons so you most likely going to lose a lot of CQC encounters, LR's guys have a great life unless you put them in CQC situations or under heavy sniper fire.

Yes, exactly. Laser Rifles are OP against everything except for Sniper Rifles, SMGs, Pistols, Mass Drivers, Tac Rifles, Shotguns, and Grenades. They also don't deal well with ARs or HMGs inside 50m or so.

Seriously though, they are so super OP vs ARs and HMGs at over 50m. Heck, there are certain times where the LR is definitely the best weapon for the job at hand, so they clearly need nerfed.

It's a freaking laser, of course it has more range than any other mid range weapon, the laser is useless in CQC... lasers don't deserve the nerf hammer, they deserve a tweak to fix the IMBA issues, if the incoming nerf for the LR is true then that weapon will be totally ruined... of course, don't get confused, I'm just defending the sake of the game here not a single weapon, I like to use LR's but I'm good with AR's too, so I don't really care if the LR got totally nerfed... but the game is going to lose a weapon, I think the nerf for them is going to be too hard and I think that CCP better remove them in that case...

because no one will use LR's again after that nerf.

Which is precisely what the people calling for a nerf are looking for.

For the record, I do, actually think the viziam is a bit too powerful, but the standard LR and the ELM are both absolutely fine as they are. I'd say reduced the Viziam's damage output by 5-10% and everything is peachy. There is absolutely no good, compelling reason to nerf the lower tiered LRs.


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Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.01.25 19:47:00 - [1] - Quote ** it guys, not worth it anymore, the QQ-ers got what they wanted. ***** idiots.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.01.25 22:48:00 - [2] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Enkidu Camuel wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Enkidu Camuel wrote: LR's are not OP, people need to realize that they're just IMBA, and also as everyone keeps stating: Snipers are the natural predator of a LR user, I am one of them and every time I shoot my LR in the open I need to keep my eyes open if I see the trails of the SR bullets flying close to me, if I got ambushed by several players I can dispatch one or two with my SMG, unless they have quick fingers or better weapons so you most likely going to lose a lot of CQC encounters, LR's guys have a great life unless you put them in CQC situations or under heavy sniper fire. Yes, exactly. Laser Rifles are OP against everything except for Sniper Rifles, SMGs, Pistols, Mass Drivers, Tac Rifles, Shotguns, and Grenades. They also don't deal well with ARs or HMGs inside 50m or so. Seriously though, they are so super OP vs ARs and HMGs at over 50m. Heck, there are certain times where the LR is definitely the best weapon for the job at hand, so they clearly need nerfed. It's a freaking laser, of course it has more range than any other mid range weapon, the laser is useless in CQC... lasers don't deserve the nerf hammer, they deserve a tweak to fix the IMBA issues, if the incoming nerf for the LR is true then that weapon will be totally ruined... of course, don't get confused, I'm just defending the sake of the game here not a single weapon, I like to use LR's but I'm good with AR's too, so I don't really care if the LR got totally nerfed... but the game is going to lose a weapon, I think the nerf for them is going to be too hard and I think that CCP better remove them in that case... because no one will use LR's again after that nerf. Which is precisely what the people calling for a nerf are looking for. For the record, I do, actually think the viziam is a bit too powerful, but the standard LR and the ELM are both absolutely fine as they are. I'd say reduced the Viziam's damage output by 5-10% and everything is peachy. There is absolutely no good, compelling reason to nerf the lower tiered LRs. Let me set this straight. The Viziam is a f***ing prototype gun. If a proto gun isn't OP, then wtf is it doing?
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.01.25 22:55:00 - [3] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: I think I generally agree with you, and I'm of the opinion that the game is pretty close to balanced right now. However, I've seen a few run downs of the actual damage numbers, and it seems that when they nerfed all the other proto weapons they didn't even touch the viziam. Resulting in a more pronounced jump from the ELM to the Viziam than any other Adv -> Proto. This alone is the ONLY reason I say the viziam could do with a minor nerf. If it helps to ease the tide of the nerfhorde, then it's a compromise I think the more level headed of us should be willing to concede. But why nerf this gun? Why not buff the others?