the starter suits you cannot remove things from because they are the starter suits you can put different stuff in them but not remove them.

I do agree with providing the skill book for their classes suits hell make that part of the tutorial to use the skill book and to upgrade it.

they are working on streamlineing the tutorial. and btw facebook has FPS game???????

This is such a bs bit of posting.....


It's actually a good bit of good detail you did throw into there. I can't say I disagree with any of it. It would be nice for the rookie mercs to have that book out of the way and bought. It will at least save them grinding through what may be 2 or 3 fights to even get up enough isk to afford that and other things. The isk granted upon character creation really isn't enough to buy more then maybe one skill book and some other stuff.

So far what you have been suggesting seems like the right path for CCP to work on.
However, the only problem I see is the pressure from the community of gamers that come from games such as CoD and BF3. I know it's something that we have to deal with, but this area is something that CCP isn't use to.

Frankly I think its our job, as beta testers and longtime EVE fans and players alike, to detter and bottleneck the imcoming pressure from "normal" FPS players for CCP

The problem with not allowing players to remove stuff from the starter suits is that just about any weapon upgrade will not "fit" in it then. This happened to me, lol. I leveled my sniping skill, because I chose the sniper class, and bought a new rifle... Went to put it in the suit and couldn't get it to fit. So, I went to buy a new suit... The problem? I am a sniper who doesn't even know how to use level 1 scout armor from my own race, lol. So, I have to wait until I get enough skill points to learn it before I can buy the suit, which will finally allow me to use a sniper rifle that makes use of my level 3 sniping. I can deal with this, because I actually expected small issues such as these after playing EVE... Most newcomers won't though.

Yeah, Facebook has a few of them now... They are all cheesy, but they draw a lot of kids who can't get the real ones for whatever reason (parents, cost, no console, etc...)

Uberstrike, Brave Arms, Red Crucible, and a number of others.

ahhh your trying to put upgrade gear on a militia suit..... found the problem..... yeah needs to be a big tutorial about that explaining the different teirs of equipment. I was one of those players who had never been in a beta came from MAG and a few other first and third person shooters knowing nothing about EVE's fitting system and picked up on it right away. if it doesn't fit in the suit need a better suit got it.....so yeah I think all they need to do is make aura come on and talk to you if you made an overloaded suit and give a breif explenation of that stuff.

Amazing, a post about first impressions that doesn't make me want to troll you... Much.

It taks a truly special person to play EVE. You know, OCD or wearing a helmet and licking the windows. or like me, Spaceships, spaceguns, **** blowing up and ragemail sent to you.

Hit detection is always going to be a little wonky in dust because there is no client-side detection. it's all server-side so the little aimbots and such that skill-less choads put in so they can look hardcore won't work. The price we pay is that the lag burps are absolutely nightmarish to cope with.

Control responses have improved over time and are still being tightened up. SMGs are only overpowered versus stupid people who can't figure out that the best way to engage a target will usually be outside punching range. And to whit, so far CCP has been primarily making core gameplay the priority in the builds and fixes, so expect the situation to improve, if not quickly.

this suggestion will meet opposition just because some people like to rage. it's not a bad idea at all. newbs need lovin' too. Like fat girls.

Until you buy your first real dropsuit as opposed to newberry suit, you cannot remove anything. You may only add/replace. Also the two primary skills to upgrade in order to make fitting with PG/CPU easier are circuitry and Combat engineering. I highly recommend all newberries train them to 3 ASAP. Militia suits suck. abandon them as fast as ye can.

EVE and DUST will have things in common. the attitude will not change, but if someone wants to merrily spend all their time doing pubmatches there's really no one to suicide gank them. We have that in EVE. There's no safe place in EVE. but the Newberries have a merc quarters and a battle finder.

You all are not NEARLY as exposed to hostile action as us EVE monkeys make it out to be unless you get out and take the risk (when CCP implements planetary control crap) of gaining a profit that we might gank you for. Make no mistake. we will gank you.

But that doesn't stop you from potentially having a VERY profitable time exploiting what you find until we do. Those who take risks will find rewards in CCP games. Most of EVE's population is huddled in hisec thinking they should be safe, while trying to pretend the wolves aren't all around them picking off the weak and slow. At this time, all a DUST toon needs to do to keep from getting facehammered for the LULz is stick in his merc quarters and spam battle finder.

There are Certificates in EVE that lay out the skills you need to gain that certificate. The certificate itself doesn't do anything nor provide any bonus what so ever; it does show up on your info when ever someone wants information about you.
To someone that is lost and confused about skill points and what skills to train, looking at those usually helps the easily confused.
Back in the 1st build, they had a tab for certificates (along with "bio" and "employment history"). They could be working on it or not, but think they already had the idea in place that certifcates will help those "new" players who get confused and side tracked easily.

EvE has an option to disable a fit item. The item is still in the slot but uses no pg/cpu and gives no benefit. This would serve function of removing from starter fits, and it comes in handy sometimes when optimizing a fit.

The skill book idea sounds good. The scout needs dropsuit command 3 to train skill, so it would need some more sp added to starter packages. This sounds fine to me, if new players get 750k instead of 500k next build.

For that matter eve has a tutorial for each starting package that gives skill books and items, and you can do the tutorial for the other packages and races to get their books too. New players learning the difference between the classes like this, and that they are not locked into the one they first picked would be good.