If this would have been asked before the open, I would have showed some love for the sniper's due to the one's that where sniping were filling a real role for their squad/team. But since the open beta, we have a zillion new all solo all about their kdr cod mentality snipers. I can't see buffing sniper suits now because the lacking of them will drive out most of these noobs leaving true snipers, then we can ask for buffs for them.

CCP please lower the CPU and PG requirements for the Advanced Sniper Rifles.

I don't understand why they are and have always been exactly the same as the prototype snipers. The standard Aurum variant is in a good place imo, 51 CPU and 7 PG. In every build I have played there has been an awkward spot for snipers when everyone has moved up to superior shielding but as a sniper it is very difficult to match it because of the CPU and PG limitations, especially now that the damage has been flattened there is even less of a purpose to buy the advanced snipers simply because 9 more points of damage and 3 times the fitting requirements don't add up.

well you can lower the cpu requiresments by putting them into a skill I can't remember the name of, that lowers cpu lvls for that weapon

That is an idiotic solution to control the amount of snipers, instead of keeping the problem there are far better methods to solve that problem. That's a terrible mentality to have as a beta tester.

^ I pretty sure that Sleepy Zan is the solution to bad snipers...

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I'm not a sniper but I agree to this.

Zan, you obviously know the problem with placing a sniper relevant topic up is that you'll be bombarded by comments about snipers being OP and only caring about KDR.

I've never said this or bothered making a thread but as soon as snipers are as vulnerable as assaults on the frontline, then people will be happy.

But back on a more relevant note, I don't know if it depends for each adv sniper rifle. But say if there was a sniper rifle with a bigger clip or a higher damage rate or ROF then of course the CPU and PG usage should be higher, but only at a fraction. This should apply to every weapon, you sacrifice CPU for damage, I.E. not being able to fit as much things on one suit.

I think that the tactical sniper rifles should be difficult to use up close, although a bit easier than they are now, with no targeting what so ever in hip fire. Even a large hit box would be fine, as long as it's still very, very inaccurate.

One thing I would submit , however, is that 3 rounds is not enough in the tactical variant. Typically, a lower powered rifle would (and should) have more rounds available per magazine. As is, the standard sniper rifle is far more useful because you can rack up more kills with its 5 rounds before reloading than with the 3 in a faster-firing, less-powerful variant. Having 30 rounds total is fine, and prevents indiscriminate fire, but reloading after killing 1 and wounding another is disheartening.

I think that 10 rounds in the tactial per magazine would make it more useful in a variety of situations, and bring it in line balance-wise with the standard sniper rifles.

Oh, and please add an "ammo per magazine" stat in the menus for sniper rifles. I was so bummed to spend the points on 2 levels of tactical sniper rifles, only be find that the ammo count was so low for both!

CCP please lower the CPU and PG requirements for the Advanced Sniper Rifles.

I don't understand why they are and have always been exactly the same as the prototype snipers. The standard Aurum variant is in a good place imo, 51 CPU and 7 PG. In every build I have played there has been an awkward spot for snipers when everyone has moved up to superior shielding but as a sniper it is very difficult to match it because of the CPU and PG limitations, especially now that the damage has been flattened there is even less of a purpose to buy the advanced snipers simply because 9 more points of damage and 3 times the fitting requirements don't add up.

I agree. Maybe the PG and CPU should be lowered on Adv. sniper rifles. Just a little bit.

This is a little off topic as a fellow sniper I've seen sleepy in action on both sides of the spectrum.
all i can say is Damn, keep it up good friend. looking forward to fighting alongside or against you man


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CCP please lower the CPU and PG requirements for the Advanced Sniper Rifles.

I don't understand why they are and have always been exactly the same as the prototype snipers. The standard Aurum variant is in a good place imo, 51 CPU and 7 PG. In every build I have played there has been an awkward spot for snipers when everyone has moved up to superior shielding but as a sniper it is very difficult to match it because of the CPU and PG limitations, especially now that the damage has been flattened there is even less of a purpose to buy the advanced snipers simply because 9 more points of damage and 3 times the fitting requirements don't add up.

CCP please lower the CPU and PG requirements for the Advanced Sniper Rifles.

I don't understand why they are and have always been exactly the same as the prototype snipers. The standard Aurum variant is in a good place imo, 51 CPU and 7 PG. In every build I have played there has been an awkward spot for snipers when everyone has moved up to superior shielding but as a sniper it is very difficult to match it because of the CPU and PG limitations, especially now that the damage has been flattened there is even less of a purpose to buy the advanced snipers simply because 9 more points of damage and 3 times the fitting requirements don't add up.

Sleeeeeeeeeeeepyyyyyyyyyyy. Stop using your A seires scout suit. Its OHK man. With my Logi A series I can survive 2 shots from them pesky snipers . That or use the basic tac sniper. Damage mods are still broken. Slap on 3 damage mods and those pesky heavies melt in 2 shots.

Or you could do what all the gay snipers are doing now;- put on a heavy suit with a sniper rifle.

LOLHeavySniper!

the reason Snipers are considered OPed is that bullets just magicly dissapear from any weapon once it hits it's max range....that dosn't and shouldn't happen period. i could go on about RSB (recoil, spread, bullet drop) but i already talked about this in the SMG thread. an easy way to add challange to a weapon class.

PS bullet drop = damage drop

Just as an aside to the Ballistics commentary.

Look at the bullet speed of the sniper rifle. 3500M/s, Currently most of the maps in Dust, aren't more than a couple of klicks across...

This means at 3.5 KMs away, the bullet would have been in flight for 1 second, barring ANY flight dynamics due to Bullet shape. You're looking at an overall bullet drop of 20 ft. (The actual drop due to release is 16.1 ft/4.9M) But lets give some fuzz for deceleration/air resistance.

So at a distance that you may... may be able to shoot one a map, you're looking at 3 times the persons height.

The problem is the distance dropped is logarithmic, so for most shots on dust maps. You're looking at probably around a foot drop total. Also at that speed cross wind-age would probably be negligible.

Ballistics would be fun IMO (I am a sniper and don't mind having to "range" my targets), but would it be a great equalizer? Probably not due to the characteristics of the weapon.

My 0.04 ISK.

Just as an aside to the Ballistics commentary.

Look at the bullet speed of the sniper rifle. 3500M/s, Currently most of the maps in Dust, aren't more than a couple of klicks across...

It's science fiction. It's sci-fi. It's fiction. It isn't real. It's just a description someone wrote in a text box. They can change it if they want. The fluff text is not an argument against making much-needed changes to sniper rifles.