We are already hard at work on the next expansion where you will see things like player owned districts, tighter economic integration and more incentives for EVE characters and corporations to take part in the politics, logistics and outcomes of DUST 514 battles. The design teams will be working with the CSM this year to make sure these plans sit well with capsuleers and mercenaries alike.

As I said in the 10 or 12 other "DUST should be on the CSM" threads, you guys are *way* premature. How about you let CCP finish getting DUST out the door first, and see how many people are playing DUST 6 months or so after release.

Now, I have no idea what has or has not been said by other CSM members, but I'll just say this plainly - CCP is not even THINKING about a DUST CSM. At. All. "Yeah, maybe we will do that one day." is literally it. We on the CSM have asked about it and that's the answer we've gotten for two years now.

Let me also clarify one other thing - DUST isn't even a real game yet. It's a thing in beta that may or may not be released in the next 6-12 months, at which point it will have to cross a lot of lines before CCP considers funding a whole other group of nerds to fly to Iceland.

I hope DUST makes a billion dollars and is solid gold, but right now it's still vaporware and CCP isn't yet looking at it as something that needs specific player representation on the level EVE does with the CSM.

Weren't you running for CSM this time yesterday ! Lol.

I've said much to the same tune when these DUST CSM posts started months back ... yes it will be needed eventually, but for the time being at least trying to make sure some of the Eve CSM have a good handle on DUST and are heavily involved in Eve will provide enough weight to this side of the debates.

Perhaps CCP could include it in the voting, one vote for CSM and one vote for DUST/Eve candidates ... then the council can be made with 2 or 3 of them having a DUST interest too.

Dear players,

Continuing our philosophy of developing our games in collaboration with the player base, we would like...

I agree that CCP need to do this more often, but how many of the people who play dust actually read the forums. I realise this is also true of the CSM in that not everyone votes and quite often it can be the loudest voice wins. It is a double edged sword and in all honesty I think dust needs some form of representation but what that is and how we achieve it may take a little longer than any of us realise.

The biggest problem with what you're suggesting Finn, is who decides who would sit on this player run/operated board?

How would it be policed/regulated?

Who decides what the group talks about, and what is sent off to CCP?



I don't think an arbitrary gathering of players would work, no matter how well intentioned. Like someone said above : Popular Vote among the uninformed can sink the ship. Anything that is run/operated by players is subject to the personal feelings of those players. Why listen to people they don't like? Why allow people they have grudges with to have a say to CCP?

You might not think people are that petty.... But a lot of them are. CCP should not and cannot have a vested interest whatever a group of players like this say unless they are sure that whoever's running it is giving everyone a fair shake.