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Posted - 2013.01.25 09:45:00 -
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There isn't any reason Dust should be represented on the CSM at this point. It is almost completely separate from EVE. They may as well be completely separate for how little their connection matters at this point. As such, the opinion of Dust players is entirely irrelevant to the big picture, because Dust is irrelevant.
Telcontar Dunedain wrote:4 - If we only get 2 seats on the existing CSM. That's only 2 votes and only 2 voices. If the Eve side doesn't like the changes we want in the Eve-Dust Link, we just lose?
The EVE-Dust link is a fantasy at this point. It's superficial and unimportant. CCP has its plans for how to connect the two. Those plans will take shape sometime after the game is released, apparently. I don't believe the input of random Dust people chosen by popularity on the forums ought to be able to influence CCP's plans at all at this point.
In a couple years, when the Dust-EVE link becomes substantial and Dust figures emerge which are involved in the nullsec aspect of Dust to a similar extent that a prominent EVE CEO might, then maybe CCP could benefit from soliciting the opinion of Dust representatives. But right now, all any of us could offer is a ******, uneducated opinion that wouldn't have the benefit of really understanding what CCP's vision for the game is, specifically. You can't expect such people to be telling CCP what to do with the game. |
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Posted - 2013.01.25 10:13:00 -
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And furthermore, given that the CSM exists to serve EVE currently I'd say that anyone who plays Dust and has no significant EVE presence doesn't deserve to be on the CSM in the first place. If you are just some console FPS player who is popular on these forums or belongs to a big corp and could get a lot of votes, you have no place being on a council that helps to affect the course of EVE's development. |
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Captain-Awesome wrote:to those saying it's too early for dust representatives: you definitely shouldn't think of running for csm if you think this.
even though dust was in closed beta - it still needed community representatives to help manage CCP in how they take the advice of the community.
How many times did we say "WTF did that get put in?" in every build? How many duplicate threads were needed to be created to get acknowledgement only to get something completely irrelevant brought up in feedback?
You're completely missing the purpose of the CSM. The EVE CSMs are there because EVE is really complex, and it became apparent that the idea of what players want from EVE according to the CCP devs and the players themselves began to diverge. CSM helps keep things on track, helps ensure the major issues from a player's perspective are being recognized, and so on.
Dust, right now, is not complex. It's complex for a FPS game, but it's simply compared to EVE. Furthermore, it's unfinished to a large extent. CCP knows the kind of game they're making. They have experienced FPS developers working on this game. They do not need some random Internet person whose only chops are popularity on these forums or wherever to start telling them how to make this game. When Dust is several years past release, and things start getting complex as it further connects to EVE and its features become more expansive, then CCP might benefit from having a player or two to represent the interests of the nullsec Dust community.
But until then, you need to recognize just how far out of your depth you'd be to start instructing CCP on this game. |
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