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Don Von Hulio
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Posted - 2013.01.24 04:32:00 -
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I have both Boosters going... annd i might be able to afford a worthwhile upgrade when the 7 days are up...
Doesnt make sense that no matter what mode you play, and how well you do... it will always be the same amount. You might as well ditch the whole SP thing and just say, "you need to fight X# of battles until you can choose another skill"
Also... wth is salvage and how do i get it. Because i have not once received bonus ISK from salvage. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.01.24 04:39:00 -
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welcome to the EVE grind fest. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.01.24 04:44:00 -
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Impatient person writes what? |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.24 04:46:00 -
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I like it slow. I'm in a game like this for the long haul. I want to enjoy different tech levels at every step of the way. The way it was a few builds ago a lot of people were well on their way to maxing out every skill in a year. |
Don Von Hulio
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Posted - 2013.01.24 04:46:00 -
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Its not that im impatient. Its just where is the incentive to do good if all it takes is you to join a game?
I could literally, just join a game. Kill one guy. Then just stay away from everything and let people do the work for me. And the Loot Drop is random too, so honestly. I wouldnt miss out on SP win or lose, cause its still the same either way and probably would still get over 100k ISK at that. |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.24 05:25:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:I have both Boosters going... annd i might be able to afford a worthwhile upgrade when the 7 days are up...
Doesnt make sense that no matter what mode you play, and how well you do... it will always be the same amount. You might as well ditch the whole SP thing and just say, "you need to fight X# of battles until you can choose another skill"
Also... wth is salvage and how do i get it. Because i have not once received bonus ISK from salvage.
welcome to F2P MMOs... where they make grinding so painfully slow that youd either have to spend money to make it better (And better still doesnt equal bearable) or quit the game altogether due to playing for a week and feeling like youve made zero progress lol
thats the one good thing about sub MMOs they do a much better job at keeping you interested.. which makes sense considering they want your money every month so theyre gonna do whatever they think they have to to keep you playing for the next 8 years as opposed to getting bored with the game in 6 months or less |
Don Von Hulio
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Posted - 2013.01.24 05:26:00 -
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Oh, you mean like EvE? lol |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.24 05:28:00 -
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Seven days of active/passive booster and meeting the SP cap would be over 500k SP. You could max out some skills in that time. Unlock numerous weapon and module types. If this is not rapid enough progression, you may want to look elsewhere for a game to play, as CCP plans on it taking players many years to max out the skills the game will launch with.
Necrodermis wrote:welcome to the EVE grind fest.
Yes, because EVE is totally famous for how it makes people grind to increase their skills. |
Don Von Hulio
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Posted - 2013.01.24 05:32:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Seven days of active/passive booster and meeting the SP cap would be over 500k SP. You could max out some skills in that time. Unlock numerous weapon and module types. If this is not rapid enough progression, you may want to look elsewhere for a game to play, as CCP plans on it taking players many years to max out the skills the game will launch with. Necrodermis wrote:welcome to the EVE grind fest. Yes, because EVE is totally famous for how it makes people grind to increase their skills.
Dont i have to be playing the game for the passive boost to be effective? |
crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.24 05:35:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Its not that im impatient. Its just where is the incentive to do good if all it takes is you to join a game?
I could literally, just join a game. Kill one guy. Then just stay away from everything and let people do the work for me. And the Loot Drop is random too, so honestly. I wouldnt miss out on SP win or lose, cause its still the same either way and probably would still get over 100k ISK at that.
yup, but the hardcore playerbase that has stuck with this beta don't want to hear how part of the game could be flawed. You are 100% right. SP you get inbattle is not effected by how well you do, it's dumb.well it is, and it is based on your skill. If you get 400 wp, then you get 400sp. However this really does mean you can log into a fight, kill one guy, and get 7,000sp for doing nothing. |
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crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.24 05:36:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Seven days of active/passive booster and meeting the SP cap would be over 500k SP. You could max out some skills in that time. Unlock numerous weapon and module types. If this is not rapid enough progression, you may want to look elsewhere for a game to play, as CCP plans on it taking players many years to max out the skills the game will launch with. Necrodermis wrote:welcome to the EVE grind fest. Yes, because EVE is totally famous for how it makes people grind to increase their skills. Dont i have to be playing the game for the passive boost to be effective?
no
you can leave for 3 months and come back to 3.5 million sp |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.01.24 05:40:00 -
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With Active Booster you get 40k SP a day (when you reach your SP cap for the day, you'll see 75sp after every game)
Passive Boosters gets you 36k SP.
In 24 hours you get 76k SP with Boosters. Without boosters you get less.
It's a F2P game, but paying for stuff will always benefit you in some way or the other.
So basically if you want more SP a day, you'll need to buy boosters with real money. Welcome to a F2P business model.
Edit: Salvage atm only comes in the form of guns, suits, or vehicles. Obviously if you don't have the skills to use the items, you can't use them. |
Buzzin Fr0g
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.24 06:11:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote: Its just where is the incentive to do good if all it takes is you to join a game?
I.
Not fully implemented yet, but conquest of territory is where the incentive will be. |
crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.24 06:15:00 -
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Buzzin Fr0g wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote: Its just where is the incentive to do good if all it takes is you to join a game?
I. Not fully implemented yet, but conquest of territory is where the incentive will be.
losers should get 1sp per 1wp
Winners should get 2 sp per 1wp
Or losers should get no slavage
or winners should get 50% more isk
Something |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
Heart 0f Darkness
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Posted - 2013.01.24 06:25:00 -
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I think at this limited stage, Skill 'grinding' in DUST is more relevant than it will be later on. Aside from a KDR, there is very little to it atm, and with everyone starting fresh again a short while ago, it becomes somewhat painfully obvious.
Just take a breather and come back in a few days. You'll still gain you Passive SP plus any Passive Booster bonus if you have it. Really, the skill system is intended to be secondary in EVE and Dust; something to help you accomplish your goals, and important enough in and of itself, but not the core of gameplay.
Coming from other MMOs that focus on the level grind to level cap that might be hard to become accustomed to, but ultimately, you just have to recognize that, in this sort of game, your actual achievements in game--the things you do--are more important than the skills that assist you in achieving them along the way. |
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