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Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 15:43:00 -
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when i started I was put in the arkombine NPC corp.. is theer as way to join archangels instead?
Speaking of corps how will corp wars work will they be exactly like skirmishes except its two corps fighting it out? if so thats a bit... odd I would expect more complex objectives like "that other corp has a satellite relay we need to make our resource gathering in this are higher.. lets take it from em" instead of.. destroy their MCC... in otherwords some variety to th emission objectives would be great.. oh even an all out corp elimination war (Im sure that stuff happens in EVE)
Also when will battles mean something? right now Im destroying the enemies MCC but I dont see why or how its helping/effecting anything. I would again expect something more complex like, and EVE player wanst to mine or probe that planets area because it highly valuable. But he/she cant because an opposing corp owns it and their air defenses make sit impossible for him/her to get close, so they higher us to take that territory over so they can mine/probe in peace, and since that area would give them a huge financial boost, the ppl helping him/her get it (us) would reap the benefits.... or they could choose to betray us for our hard work and then well we kick their butt ourselves (or have some of our contacts in EVE online do it for us).
Thats the kinda stuff Im waiting to see, until then this is just another FPS no different/better than MAG, CoD, BF etc etc
Oh and when do I get to see teh inside of a war barge. |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:00:00 -
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Remember this is an open beta. Beta = test phase to work out bugs.
A lot of that stuff is already in the pipeline but CCP likes to do things right not quick (for the most part)
So welcome to New Eden i look forward to brutally murdering while you run screaming for cover. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:07:00 -
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Ccp has been steadily putting out updates to eve twice a year. They are expansion sized often. Could have all you describe eventually. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:09:00 -
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Yoou can't switch between NPC corps - you're put in one depending on your race/blood line choices. |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:20:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn I dont get murdered.. I do the murdering :p
Also CCP COULD and WILL are two different things, Id liek to know that they WILL as opposed to could, as for eve getting updated twice a year thats pretty bad for an MMO especially a pay to play one when other MMOs I know get updated 2-3 months which is 4-6 times a year
As far as NPC corp and race/bloodline goes.. is there anyway to play with (or against) a friend who choose a different bloodline and race and thus would be in a different NPC corp? and no one answered the war barge question lol |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:23:00 -
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Hiei Jagan wrote:Val'herik Dorn I dont get murdered.. I do the murdering :p
Also CCP COULD and WILL are two different things, Id liek to know that they WILL as opposed to could, as for eve getting updated twice a year thats pretty bad for an MMO especially a pay to play one when other MMOs I know get updated 2-3 months which is 4-6 times a year
As far as NPC corp and race/bloodline goes.. is there anyway to play with (or against) a friend who choose a different bloodline and race and thus would be in a different NPC corp? and no one answered the war barge question lol
Squad up with them, join a channel, ect. Being in different corporation honestly means nothing if it's NPC. You're all in the same boat.
And CCP WILL be adding these features eventually.
As for the warbarge - didn't realize that was an honest question. It's just there as a timer really - these game modes don't reflect the true game. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:31:00 -
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Hiei Jagan wrote:when i started I was put in the arkombine NPC corp.. is theer as way to join archangels instead?
Speaking of corps how will corp wars work will they be exactly like skirmishes except its two corps fighting it out? if so thats a bit... odd I would expect more complex objectives like "that other corp has a satellite relay we need to make our resource gathering in this are higher.. lets take it from em" instead of.. destroy their MCC... in otherwords some variety to th emission objectives would be great.. oh even an all out corp elimination war (Im sure that stuff happens in EVE)
Also when will battles mean something? right now Im destroying the enemies MCC but I dont see why or how its helping/effecting anything. I would again expect something more complex like, and EVE player wanst to mine or probe that planets area because it highly valuable. But he/she cant because an opposing corp owns it and their air defenses make sit impossible for him/her to get close, so they higher us to take that territory over so they can mine/probe in peace, and since that area would give them a huge financial boost, the ppl helping him/her get it (us) would reap the benefits.... or they could choose to betray us for our hard work and then well we kick their butt ourselves (or have some of our contacts in EVE online do it for us).
Thats the kinda stuff Im waiting to see, until then this is just another FPS no different/better than MAG, CoD, BF etc etc
Oh and when do I get to see teh inside of a war barge. The current Corp battle system is very much like a skirmish with set teams. This being beta however it is only in it's very early stages and is confirmed as a development priory for CCP (no time frame on changes that I'm aware of). Other mission options are being considered (indeed there used to be other options seeded but they were removed due to balance problems) and AFAIK are coming in the future.
Corp battles, which is to say Faction Warfare battles, mean something right now. The effect system control in EVE Online. However the tools in D514 to observe and track this have not yet been finished/enabled so we can't see the effects of our actions.
Both the ability to track our effects, and the scope of those effects are also slated to be further fleshed out and expanded with coming updates. (Time frame SOONtm)
Hope some of that is of use to you, Cheers, Cross |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:35:00 -
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so i can squad up with ppl from a different npc corp? thats odd i mean what if their NPC corp and mine are fighting eachother in skirmish? i mean i would THINK when i do a skirmish these ppl on the opposing team arent ppl from my corp.. if it is then human created corps can do the same? if so that would make backstabbing (and spying) pretty easy wouldnt you say?
"Hey lemme just join this corp while Im in another cor thats sure not the set off any red flags!!" lol
Also you said NPC cops are "ine the same boat" so what boat are non NPC corps in? i..e whats the difference between the two other than one is NPC corp and the other is player corp.
War bare is just a timer? that sucks I figured it was a "neutral" 3rd person lobby where I can walk around and see (and talk too) other players without being in a combat environment and form friendships/alliances etc etc for when the sh!t finally does hit the fan
So basically in its current stat when youre not in your "apartment" (more like closet) outfitting your suit and vehicles and playing with your skill points, then theres nothing else to do in this "mmo" besides fight?
I mean Im sure in EVE you can go a full 24 hours and see no combat at all but still accomplish plenty of things (and no allocating your skill points and outfitting your ship =/= accomplishment.. and even if it did if i took you a full 24 hours to do that something is wrong lol)
I think another thing they should add is when we own a territory or planet make it so that we can "lounge" in said territory when its not being attacked, to test out weapons, get the hang of operating certain vehicles, build defenses (automated and otherwise) around the base, basically ACTIVELY prepare ourselves for when the time comes that we have to defend it again. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:48:00 -
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Hiei Jagan wrote:so i can squad up with ppl from a different npc corp? thats odd i mean what if their NPC corp and mine are fighting eachother in skirmish? i mean i would THINK when i do a skirmish these ppl on the opposing team arent ppl from my corp.. if it is then human created corps can do the same? if so that would make backstabbing (and spying) pretty easy wouldnt you say?
"Hey lemme just join this corp while Im in another cor thats sure not the set off any red flags!!" lol
Also you said NPC cops are "ine the same boat" so what boat are non NPC corps in? i..e whats the difference between the two other than one is NPC corp and the other is player corp.
War bare is just a timer? that sucks I figured it was a "neutral" 3rd person lobby where I can walk around and see (and talk too) other players without being in a combat environment and form friendships/alliances etc etc for when the sh!t finally does hit the fan
So basically in its current stat when youre not in your "apartment" (more like closet) outfitting your suit and vehicles and playing with your skill points, then theres nothing else to do in this "mmo" besides fight?
I mean Im sure in EVE you can go a full 24 hours and see no combat at all but still accomplish plenty of things (and no allocating your skill points and outfitting your ship =/= accomplishment.. and even if it did if i took you a full 24 hours to do that something is wrong lol)
I think another thing they should add is when we own a territory or planet make it so that we can "lounge" in said territory when its not being attacked, to test out weapons, get the hang of operating certain vehicles, build defenses (automated and otherwise) around the base, basically ACTIVELY prepare ourselves for when the time comes that we have to defend it again. Welcome to Dust.
NPC corps have no meaning - it's really just CCP's fun way to divide people - they hold no real meaning right now. People in player made corps tend to be much more mature and skilled then NPC corp players, and it's a lot easier to find a squad. Plus player run corps can take districts/planets. |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:04:00 -
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so in the games current stage player corps can take district/planets whereas NPC corps dont? also what is the benefit to owning a district/planet? |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:09:00 -
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Hiei Jagan wrote:so in the games current stage player corps can take district/planets whereas NPC corps dont? also what is the benefit to owning a district/planet? Actually owning it means nothing to us Bunnies - but to EvE it means a ton of resources they can harness.
We just get paid big bucks to go down to the planet and mess stuff up :)
And correct - NPC corps don't do jack. Their just place holders till you find a real corp. |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:14:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Hiei Jagan wrote:so in the games current stage player corps can take district/planets whereas NPC corps dont? also what is the benefit to owning a district/planet? Actually owning it means nothing to us Bunnies - but to EvE it means a ton of resources they can harness. We just get paid big bucks to go down to the planet and mess stuff up :) And correct - NPC corps don't do jack. Their just place holders till you find a real corp.
now thats what i like to hear.. now that we know how we benefit EVE, teh question now becomes how does EVE benefit us? outside of lining our pockets.. like maybe an EVE player getting better resources due to our actions means we can get better salving results baaed on their resource output/level.. or maybe if we got armor/weapon production what we can or cant produce is based on what resources an EVE player can get due to our involvement in getting a planet for em etc etc |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:16:00 -
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Hiei Jagan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Hiei Jagan wrote:so in the games current stage player corps can take district/planets whereas NPC corps dont? also what is the benefit to owning a district/planet? Actually owning it means nothing to us Bunnies - but to EvE it means a ton of resources they can harness. We just get paid big bucks to go down to the planet and mess stuff up :) And correct - NPC corps don't do jack. Their just place holders till you find a real corp. now thats what i like to hear.. now that we know how we benefit EVE, teh question now becomes how does EVE benefit us? outside of lining our pockets.. like maybe an EVE player getting better resources due to our actions means we can get better salving results baaed on their resource output/level.. or maybe if we got armor/weapon production what we can or cant produce is based on what resources an EVE player can get due to our involvement in getting a planet for em etc etc That's all pretty much going to be added. Most gear if not all above militia level will be player made. Or at least there will be a player market where EvE sells toys to Dust. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:24:00 -
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Also, hopefully soon sans TM, EVE players (and Dust players - but that is probably further off) will be able to issue contracts to capture specific districts, paying us with their hard earned ISK - and that is when things start to get interesting. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:41:00 -
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Please remember we're in BETA though, a lot of stuff isn't here yet. |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:41:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Also, hopefully soon sans TM, EVE players (and Dust players - but that is probably further off) will be able to issue contracts to capture specific districts, paying us with their hard earned ISK - and that is when things start to get interesting.
isnt that whats already being done? hence "being in a player corp and owning a planet means nothing to us bunnies but to EVE players it gives them resources"?
I hope they add non combat activities to do in game.. i mean like another guy said most stuff will be player made.. so if i wanted to be the guy that dd no fighting and did something but scavenge or farm materials to make weapons/armor/bullets and play the market to get rich without ever firing a shot i could choose to play that way if I wanted.
Also is there team killing in Dust? I mean how can a corp in Dust backstab another corp in dust if they cant well umm.. literally shot em in the back.. I mean EVE players can do it (as guiding hand incident showed us) corps in EVE can kill members of its own corp lol) |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:44:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Please remember we're in BETA though, a lot of stuff isn't here yet.
ye I remember that.. but I also remember weve been in beta for almost a year now lol.. Im ding to see the "excuse" when the game finally launches and still not even half of that stuff is in it... or will this be one of thsoe F2P games that are "in beta" 4-5 years with no plans of ever NOT being in beta... which imho a beta shouldnt have item malls/micro transactions open for business, save that for when teh games "done" |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:45:00 -
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Hiei Jagan wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Please remember we're in BETA though, a lot of stuff isn't here yet. ye I remember that.. but I also remember weve been in beta for almost a year now lol.. Im ding to see the "excuse" when the game finally launches and still not even half of that stuff is in it... or will this be one of thsoe F2P games that are "in beta" 4-5 years with no plans of ever NOT being in beta... which imho a beta shouldnt have item malls/micro transactions open for business, save that for when teh games "done" You could buy minecraft accounts while it was still in beta. |
Hiei Jagan
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:47:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Hiei Jagan wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Please remember we're in BETA though, a lot of stuff isn't here yet. ye I remember that.. but I also remember weve been in beta for almost a year now lol.. Im ding to see the "excuse" when the game finally launches and still not even half of that stuff is in it... or will this be one of thsoe F2P games that are "in beta" 4-5 years with no plans of ever NOT being in beta... which imho a beta shouldnt have item malls/micro transactions open for business, save that for when teh games "done" You could buy minecraft accounts while it was still in beta.
hence m using the word "shouldn't" never said they dont lol |
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