Release the Kraken!!!

Dear god, please stay away from my Flux grenades. They are the only "manly" grenades out there.

Dude, its rock paper scissors. As a logi, I use my flux nades and MD to keep you fast shield scouts and assaults away from me and my HMG heavy. I don't need more of you shooting at us. Go armor tank if you have a problem with flux grenades. Everything has its hard counter. If the team you are playing seems to be anti shield, make sure you have a tank setup ready to respawn with.

This is not your mothers FPS. HTFU.

Hey i spent a lot of SP so i could chuck flux and spam "noob" tube. Im not embarrased by it as a squishy logi i want to use the only weapon slot i have to make sure i can "clear out" enemies and rez/rep my buddies. I mean im always yeling back the eff up on comms when im firing it cause i want ppl to run and quake when im around....makes me feel manly darnit.

I do like you're scaled damage idea just not sure if it is doable from a coding aspect if a flux is thrown at a tank with enemies near it as well. Also i think having the variants make it less of an all-purpose shield stripping nade and forces players to be more concious of their flux nade selection.

First off beers, its an effective combo and one that makes sense to use, like flux and swarm launcher on a shield tank, or AR/Smg or scout suit and shotty.

I mean if everything became just an AR vs AR battle(not suggesting thats what you want just using as an example) the game would be utterly boring. Yes i want good gunfights but i also want weapon versatility and combinations of weapons/nades/vehicles and everything else. I just want to make sure its done in a balanced manner.

Also using a flux nade follwed by any gun other than LR is a good effective combo and just as good a reason to use them.

But the reason why i made this thread is specifically in how effective that combo is because of the INSANE level of shield damage flux nades currently do.
If that was the point of your previous thread i apoligize for the misinterpretation.

Oh i see it now, yea my response was also meant in a normal manner too. But i try to also play devils advocate and try to help both sides on the argument.

According to your numbers though, a standard grenade will knock out most if not all of the shields of the majority of the community. In fact a standard grenade will knock out all the shields AND do armor damage to most scouts and logis. The Flux, while devastating in shield damage, doesn't really do anything that a standard grenade can't do.

Flux grenades have the same diminishing effect bassed on range as locus.

HOWEVER.

Flux grenades START at 1200 EM damage with armor being 100% resistent. they're the happy medium between AV and locus grenades, and they're not exactly OP because if you escape your shields regen a LOT faster than armor ever could. thirty seconds later you're back in the fight at full throttle. this is why mass drivers synergize so well with them. If you can catch 2-3 people with a flux then your mass driver becomes the sandpaper grinder of terror.

but flux are pretty much wasted on heavy dropsuits and armor tanked minmatar logistics suits. they're mostly effective against caldari vehicles, and scout/assault dropsuits.

Once CCP introduces all classes of dropsuit to all races Flux will become a niche toy used via corporation combat doctrine based on most frequently encountered opposition. primarily useful against caldari and minmatar and next to worthless against gallente and amarr.