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Skihids
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Posted - 2013.01.15 02:42:00 -
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In case you don't read the technical bug forum regularly you may have missed this.
If your passive SP is ticking about every 6 seconds you are not getting your boost.
Switch your passive SP to an alt and back again to fix it. |
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Posted - 2013.01.15 12:31:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:In that situation, you're actually getting your booster SP. What you're not getting is the base SP. Everyone should check their passive, not just people with the booster. If it's not ticking up at all, do the same to fix it.
So I was losing 2/3 not 1/3. It really felt slow and that explains it. |
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:08:00 -
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Bumping to ensure everyone gets a chance to see this. |
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Posted - 2013.01.15 17:02:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:[quote=Arramakaian Eka]Thanks.
How often should it tick with booster on and off?
Timed with a stop watch:
Natural booster for passive skilling: 3.6 sec/SP
Purchased booster for passive skilling (equipped to alt character): 7.1 sec/SP
My question is (and hopefully someone can answer):
Is there any benifit to equiping a purchased booster on top of a natural booster?
Then:
If not why?
And:
Why am I paying real money for a substandard product. Why is CCP forcing my alt to be sub par?[/quote
You get passive skilling free for one character. You can purchase a 50% booster for this.
It doesn't make muck sense to run the booster without the base passive turned on, though some might do that for an alt character if they have money to burn.
The issue at hand is that a bunch of us equipped the booster at the same time we enabled passive SP on our main characters and only received the 50% boost. We didn't notice the problem right away since the booster caused the SP ticker to increase.
The passive SP bug requires us to reassign passive SP to an alt and back o our main to get it to activate.
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:13:00 -
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byte modal wrote:I think I agree with Higgs. I've never used booster before, but decided to try the Merc Pack this weekend to help. I applied the passive SP booster to my main and the tick SEEMS to be the same as it was without. Perhaps it's not a perceptive difference counting seconds in my head ;) If Higgs actually used a stopwatch to measure, then what is correct? Does passive boost natural SP gain?
To add, I applied a passive SP booster to an alt last night as well with no tick of SP. I assumed that the passive SP booster on an ALT would give that alt a slow passive trickle of SP over the 7-day booster life cycle. Is this a wrong assumption? If not, and I am correct in my assumption, then are passive SP booster working at all? My main with booster seems no different. My alt with booster is not gaining SP---or at least was not for the 20 minutes I checked, in addition to logging off and returning to game to see if it simply needed to ...whatever technical babble is applicable here! I will check again tonight to see if any passive SP has been added.
I'm totally fine if I have misunderstood the intent of the booster. I would simply like to know one way or the other.
- me.
Check the actual amount of SP added per cycle with and without the booster. I suspect that the booster activates every other cycle to double the SP gain on that cycle (rather than add half the gain each cycle). I'm not home now so I can't verify my guess.
(This is the passive booster, not the 30 day active booster found in the merc pack)
I don't know if the passive booster is supposed to work without the default passive SP activated or not. That's a good question. |
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:43:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Kanen Serran wrote:you can only have passive sp active on one char at a time. if you apply the passive booster to a char without passive sp gain active it will do nothing and be wasted. This is not true. As I have already demonstrated by posting the time figures for natural and purchased passive SP accrual (purchased booster was tested on alt character with no natural booster active). Once again, the times are: Main character: Natural booster only: 3.6 sec/SP Natural and purchased booster stacked: 3.6 sec/SP Alt character: Purchased booster only: 7.1 sec/SP And again one more time. The question is: Does the purchased passive booster alow for higher/more skill points gain when stacked with the natural booster. Still haven't gotten an answer to this question? ~Higgs flagrantfool.
Please total the SP gained in one minute with and without the booster in place. The update cycle doesn't have to change to get the increased SP from the booster if every other cycle has double the SP gain.
Eg. If the passive SP gives one point per 3.5 seconds and the booster gives one point every seven seconds it would look like this:
1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2...
With passive only:
1, 1, 1, 1, 1 ...
And with booster only:
1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0 ...
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:32:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Skihids wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Kanen Serran wrote:you can only have passive sp active on one char at a time. if you apply the passive booster to a char without passive sp gain active it will do nothing and be wasted. This is not true. As I have already demonstrated by posting the time figures for natural and purchased passive SP accrual (purchased booster was tested on alt character with no natural booster active). Once again, the times are: Main character: Natural booster only: 3.6 sec/SP Natural and purchased booster stacked: 3.6 sec/SP Alt character: Purchased booster only: 7.1 sec/SP And again one more time. The question is: Does the purchased passive booster alow for higher/more skill points gain when stacked with the natural booster. Still haven't gotten an answer to this question? ~Higgs flagrantfool. Please total the SP gained in one minute with and without the booster in place. The update cycle doesn't have to change to get the increased SP from the booster if every other cycle has double the SP gain. Eg. If the passive SP gives one point per 3.5 seconds and the booster gives one point every seven seconds it would look like this: 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2... With passive only: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 ... And with booster only: 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0 ... It was repeatedly tested there is no cycle variation that I could tell. And at 50% the cycle would be very noticeable over short periods of time. (i.e. One extra point per every other second, two extra points per every four seconds etc.). As I said, a cycle would be very noticeable over short periods of time (which was what I tested for - "minutes"). what was not tested for, and what I am not going to test for, is tens of minutes and hours, which is why I am aking the question, so that I can hopefully get an informed direct resolution. Very simpe question: does the purchased passive booster stack with the natural booster? As of now I have seen no evidence that it does, and I am refuseing to purchas the item based on my experiences also I am recomending that others do the same.
It was meant to stack with passive SP gain. A booster augments the standard SP gain, either active or passive.
If it isn't, it isn't working.
If you get X SP in one minute with passive an no booster you should get X * 1.5 with the passive booster enabled.
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Posted - 2013.01.16 14:05:00 -
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charlesnette dalari wrote:did this last night you were right i wasnt getting ANY benefit from the booster i bought for a few days now. fixed now but hopin ccp gives us the booster back since i wasted like 4 days of it.
Actually as Tiel Syysch pointed out in the second post in the thread, you were getting the boost SP but missing the normal passive SP. That had you at 1/3 the rate you should have been getting.
If you had not activated your booster right away you would have gotten nothing which would have been obvious. So technically there is nothing to refund for the booster, but we should get restitution of the lost passive SP.
(Btw, when you switch characters in game it flips your posting character. I had to find the forum swap button at the top right corner to get back after running the timing test as Khresq as it left me there.)
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:25:00 -
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Sergeant Wiznowski wrote:I missed that thread as I do not have passive boosters and didn't cared ... Checked last night and got the same bug as well. No passive skills for the last 7 days  So check your passive gains mercs if it's not ticking you need to switch passive gains to ALT.
I wish I titled the thread "Check your passive SP", but I too thought it was a booster issue rather than a passive SP problem.
Even after multiple clarifications in thread people are still getting it wrong. |
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