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Kalante Schiffer UnReaL. 183	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:27:00 - [1] - Quote In order to not make them rage quit the game we must not be too brutal and try to lower our tryhardiness. if new players sees a group of people going 16 n 0, or 31 n 0, they will get discourage and say "well this people are cheating" because thats the tipical noob judgment and will go back to cod. just saying... if the noob gets r***d on his first day by a bunch of Synergy, imperfect, Zion, or SCE clan members they will leave the game. i already told my clan mates to not put their r4pe faces on.
Arramakaian Eka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:31:00 - [2] - Quote Come 22nd I'm going to put on my heav.. bear costume and run around hugging n00bs.
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 62	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:34:00 - [3] - Quote Oh you forgot Zion. And yea I agree. I do want more people to play this game.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:34:00 - [4] - Quote r4pe face [on]
Blondie Roads Imperfects Negative-Feedback 7	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:37:00 - [5] - Quote Pandering to noobs Will only bring the game down. The beta had a large pool and long running time. This is what you get and the only solution would be a nerf bat. Just need to let it play out, as is, and get used to the fact that this game Will grow like Eve , slow and steady.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:40:00 - [6] - Quote Blondie Roads wrote: Pandering to noobs Will only bring the game down. The beta had a large pool and long running time. This is what you get and the only solution would be a nerf bat. Just need to let it play out, as is, and get used to the fact that this game Will grow like Eve , slow and steady. This I'm ready to cut them down with my methana's blaster.
Val'herik Dorn CrimeWave Syndicate 263	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:43:00 - [7] - Quote Lazor primed and ready... so how do you like your noob? Crispy or cajun?
Beld Errmon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:45:00 - [8] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: In order to not make them rage quit the game we must not be too brutal and try to lower our tryhardiness. if new players sees a group of people going 16 n 0, or 31 n 0, they will get discourage and say "well this people are cheating" because thats the tipical noob judgment and will go back to cod. just saying... if the noob gets r***d on his first day by a bunch of Synergy, imperfect, Zion, or SCE clan members they will leave the game. i already told my clan mates to not put their r4pe faces on. What a stupid suggestion, -1.
Foley Jones R.I.f.t 122	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:46:00 - [9] - Quote I never played EVE and I agree that noobs need a chance but....we are in the EVE universe..a place were you won't get any hand outs or any kindness , its called HTFU and its true...the noobs need to HTFU (harden the f*** up) or GTFO,.
psyanyde CrimeWave Syndicate 12	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:50:00 - [10] - Quote If you don't kill them multiple times they'll never get any better. Really want a bunch of people walking around with an unwarranted elevated sense of self worth? They'll just continue sucking ass for their entire duration in the game. Never learning how to counter someone or exploit someone's weakness/es. Also how are you supposed to learn the flaws in your own game if you're coddled? Also I've already upgraded my tear cup to a tear tub and the store said no refunds.

Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:53:00 - [11] - Quote Ok guys, militia only to set a "good" example for the new guys. What a great idea.
Grenwal Hiesenberg Shadow Company HQ 225	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:55:00 - [12] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: r4pe face [on] I lol'd
Foley Jones R.I.f.t 122	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:57:00 - [13] - Quote psyanyde wrote: If you don't kill them multiple times they'll never get any better. Really want a bunch of people walking around with an unwarranted elevated sense of self worth? They'll just continue sucking ass for their entire duration in the game. Never learning how to counter someone or exploit someone's weakness/es. Also how are you supposed to learn the flaws in your own game if you're coddled? Also I've already upgraded my tear cup to a tear tub and the store said no refunds. Don't forget that we will have some random cod fanboys with a chip on their houlder thinking they are better than us after we faked every gunfight..we are the beta testers we earned our skills and reputation and we won't let that change just cause of some nine year old cries
Kalante Schiffer UnReaL. 183	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:01:00 - [14] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Kalante Schiffer wrote: In order to not make them rage quit the game we must not be too brutal and try to lower our tryhardiness. if new players sees a group of people going 16 n 0, or 31 n 0, they will get discourage and say "well this people are cheating" because thats the tipical noob judgment and will go back to cod. just saying... if the noob gets r*d on his first day by a bunch of Synergy, imperfect, Zion, or SCE clan members they will leave the game. i already told my clan mates to not put their r4pe faces on. What a stupid suggestion, -1. well this happened to the game were i come from, RFoM. We F*d the noobs so hard now the place is a ghost town. IDK maybe i am paranoid that the same thing will happen to dust. remember that this is a console were people are looking for fun, they will not want to learn all the stuff that dust has, plus giving them a good r4pe wont make things better. see i am open for criticism.
Beld Errmon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:17:00 - [15] - Quote There is going to be different areas for people to play in when the game goes live, new players and bad players will be shooting each other in Highsec, while the good players and corps will be fighting for districts in factionwar or planets in nullsec, noobs will never have an easy time playing the game because of learning curve and facing vets, but it will be better than a lot of other FPS games where all you can do is pick a server, and hope it isn't clan stacked or full of 5 star generals ect.
Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis 300	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:18:00 - [16] - Quote ....why not just have the tryhardies go into highsec with militia builds only?
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:34:00 - [17] - Quote How are we supposed to tell the difference between the new ones and the old ones?
Foley Jones R.I.f.t 122	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:37:00 - [18] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: How are we supposed to tell the difference between the new ones and the old ones? THIS is why we shouldn't do this
Tryhard514 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 111	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:40:00 - [19] - Quote I will go hard every game on the 22nd... Will be a great night of 50+ kills every game.
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:48:00 - [20] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: if the noob gets r***d on his first day by a bunch of Synergy, imperfect, Zion, or SCE clan members they will leave the game I like how you included yourself in the people that will be doing the "r4ping."

Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance 152	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:52:00 - [21] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Ok guys, militia only to set a "good" example for the new guys. What a great idea. I saw you the other day. I was trying to shoot you! You're very good at grabbing cover.
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:18:00 - [22] - Quote I think they need to have a noob friendly zone ready for open beta, Even though EvE might sound like a harsh place to live you can play for years and never have the need to go up against vets due to the warm flufy place that is hi-sec.
Foley Jones R.I.f.t 122	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:38:00 - [23] - Quote Cpt Murd0ck wrote: I think they need to have a noob friendly zone ready for open beta, Even though EvE might sound like a harsh place to live you can play for years and never have the need to go up against vets due to the warm flufy place that is hi-sec. Except that one time in EVE were this corp of thousands took really cheap but effective ships and went into hisec and murdered everyone and closed off all the gates by camping them....youtube Burn jita
Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance 152	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:40:00 - [24] - Quote Cpt Murd0ck wrote: I think they need to have a noob friendly zone ready for open beta, Even though EvE might sound like a harsh place to live you can play for years and never have the need to go up against vets due to the warm flufy place that is hi-sec. It is a harsh place. And lots of rookies run into vets daily. Especially in high sec. However, quite a few of those vets will help a rookie out after they blow them up, scam them or otherwise ruin their day with lots of advice. Provided of course the rookie doesn't decide to be whiny little clown about it.
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2013.01.15 05:46:00 - [25] - Quote well suicide ganking aside its pretty safe ...All i mean is that it gives a slight curve to the learning cliff which I worry new dustbunnies wont have
lDocHollidayl Imperfects Negative-Feedback 171	Posted - 2013.01.15 05:51:00 - [26] - Quote Truth time...they will get slaughtered. Many will not touch the game without any outside influence convincing them too. I hope CCP has some solutions to the massive graveyard that is on the horizon... Imagine your first week...now imagine you were facing a well equipped tank. Rinse and repeat.
DigiOps Doomheim 25	Posted - 2013.01.15 05:53:00 - [27] - Quote My tryhardiness stat is entirely dependent on my sick martyr-nading skills and my surprise-shotgun-buttsects. But seriously. I want to see the player base grow, not stay the same. I've got a lot of college buddies eagerly awaiting open beta. Guiding newbies into their skill sets would probably be more beneficial to them. If they want to play an FPS, then they most likely already know what they're doing in those respects.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 282	Posted - 2013.01.15 06:29:00 - [28] - Quote This will be a great time to perfect hip firing if practice is needed.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2013.01.15 08:07:00 - [29] - Quote Mate, I want to see my KDR up to 20. Newbs get no sanctuary.
Quill Killian Better Hide R Die 107	Posted - 2013.01.15 08:20:00 - [30] - Quote Eh. I think it's a bit dangerous to assume that every noob who comes into the open beta will suck at the game. More than a few of us closed-beta testers could find ourselves facing a nasty surprise or two with that line of thinking.



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