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56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:41:00 -
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im i the only one who is feeling two sided about the whole open beta thing or im i just being overly pessimistic and cynical?.... |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
580
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:42:00 -
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We can't be too brutal to the new guys or they'll get discouraged and run away  |
56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:53:00 -
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it not so much about the inflex of new bloods but more that transgaming/transmedia is going to be a thing one way or another and all eyes are on dust however ccp seems too "unworryed" if you get what i am saying... |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:54:00 -
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I'm feeling the same way.
Also-
Pokey Dravon wrote:We can't be too brutal to the new guys or they'll get discouraged and run away
The players we want are the ones who soldier through the brutality. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm feeling the same way. Also- Pokey Dravon wrote:We can't be too brutal to the new guys or they'll get discouraged and run away The players we want are the ones who soldier through the brutality.
This.
It's worked just fine for Eve. Just look at the game's learning curv... err... cliff. Surprisingly the game's overall brutality and cut-throat culture of "trust no one" is what attracted so many players over the years. |
56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:28:00 -
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well the opening tutorial makes things clear and out there with what to expact from the game: you will die you will lose things the list gose on and althought i am in the camp of we should not go too easy on the new guys (hold back a bit so it not a complite meat grinder) i'm mostly coming from a pov of someone who reads industry news every now and again... |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
164
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm feeling the same way. Also- Pokey Dravon wrote:We can't be too brutal to the new guys or they'll get discouraged and run away The players we want are the ones who soldier through the brutality. This. It's worked just fine for Eve. Just look at the game's learning curv... err... cliff. Surprisingly the game's overall brutality and cut-throat culture of "trust no one" is what attracted so many players over the years.
also the aging console is a good platform for longevity; being the last good game on ps3 would not hurt |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:33:00 -
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I expect to get destroyed when i start a new game, its half the fun trying to climb your way up |
Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
184
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:35:00 -
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What are you worried about, aside from the fact that any hype is going to blow over once the world see's Dust isn't their favourite Cowadoody, BF3 or Halo but instead pretty much the fundamentals of EVE wrapped around a half-baked fps? |
56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:21:00 -
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again trainsmedia gaming is going to be a thing, half baked games can work just play spec ops the line or watch extra credits two part'er on it, ccp did a good thing by not publicly compare it any of those games......j-just watch these videos then play with the following mind set:
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/beyond-fun/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/spec-ops-the-line-part-1/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/spec-ops-the-line-part-2/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/playing-like-a-designer-part-1/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/playing-like-a-designer-part-2/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/the-pre-production-problem/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/microtransactions/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/playtesting/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/transgaming/
and in turms of nerfing and sp the following:
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/perfect-imbalance/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/power-creep/
http://extra-credits.net/episodes/energy-systems/
(off topic: it too early in the morning to try and get my point a cross and im going to be late again for class) |
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Free Beers
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:17:00 -
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I plan to nade spam them. I have alt just skilled in nanohives and nades.
it's not personal but someone has to condition them for how ccp is going to treat them. Am I wrong?
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56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:25:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:I plan to nade spam them. I have alt just skilled in nanohives and nades.
it's not personal but someone has to condition them for how ccp is going to treat them. Am I wrong?
........really? |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:39:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:I plan to nade spam them. I have alt just skilled in nanohives and nades.
it's not personal but someone has to condition them for how ccp is going to treat them. Am I wrong?
Since you posed the question, yeah, you are.
Although, I wouldn't use the word "wrong," more like childish. |
Free Beers
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:55:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Free Beers wrote:I plan to nade spam them. I have alt just skilled in nanohives and nades.
it's not personal but someone has to condition them for how ccp is going to treat them. Am I wrong?
Since you posed the question, yeah, you are. Although, I wouldn't use the word "wrong," more like childish.
Seriously guys? Do I have to put a disclaimer on every post that says "This is 100% sarcasim, I was just trying to be subtle about it" |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:10:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Free Beers wrote:I plan to nade spam them. I have alt just skilled in nanohives and nades.
it's not personal but someone has to condition them for how ccp is going to treat them. Am I wrong?
Since you posed the question, yeah, you are. Although, I wouldn't use the word "wrong," more like childish. Seriously guys? Do I have to put a disclaimer on every post that says "This is 100% sarcasim, I was just trying to be subtle about it"
Gdi.....ya know, I should have seen through on that. My bad Free Beers. |
Free Beers
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:12:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Free Beers wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Free Beers wrote:I plan to nade spam them. I have alt just skilled in nanohives and nades.
it's not personal but someone has to condition them for how ccp is going to treat them. Am I wrong?
Since you posed the question, yeah, you are. Although, I wouldn't use the word "wrong," more like childish. Seriously guys? Do I have to put a disclaimer on every post that says "This is 100% sarcasim, I was just trying to be subtle about it" Gdi.....ya know, I should have seen through on that. My bad Free Beers.
yeah never take me seriously man. all joking aside i feel for the noobs and hope as many as possible survive. If they don't its not on us really, more of the game ccp has given us. All we can do it recruit themto our corps and give them all the help we can. solo noobing is going to be rough.
actually when it comes to game play or balancing discussions then yeah, take me seriously. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:15:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:
Gdi.....ya know, I should have seen through on that. My bad Free Beers.
yeah never take me seriously man. all joking aside i feel for the noobs and hope as many as possible survive. If they don't its not on us really, more of the game ccp has given us. All we can do it recruit themto our corps and give them all the help we can. solo noobing is going to be rough. actually when it comes to game play or balancing discussions then yeah, take me seriously.
You think I would have learned by now, amirite? I share your sentiments on the noobberries coming in when we go Open. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:47:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:; being the last good game on ps3 would not hurt
 I think your optimisim is commendable, there are quite a few good games being developed that will have a far greater success than dust, the last of us springs to mind. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
651
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:57:00 -
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So when the new guys come in and go, "This is DUST??". We can say, "Yea, should seen it 8 months ago"
I am still getting lag spikes and memory leaks on the same maps, sometimes Ambush spawns me in the OB area and I commit suicide, the general bad state of spawning into an Ambush in general etc etc.
For an open beta there isn't going to be alot of content and there are still alot of bugs. I hope they like it and see the big picture with DUST, but I'm always a pessimist. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2013.01.16 07:09:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm feeling the same way. Also- Pokey Dravon wrote:We can't be too brutal to the new guys or they'll get discouraged and run away The players we want are the ones who soldier through the brutality. This. It's worked just fine for Eve. Just look at the game's learning curv... err... cliff. Surprisingly the game's overall brutality and cut-throat culture of "trust no one" is what attracted so many players over the years.
yes but good players will lose interest fast with broken mechanics and lack of depth that was promised. Im not that worried but at the same time..... they are competing with planet side 2 and firefall as well as the better know/polished shooters from consoles. |
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Daalzebul Del'Armgo
D3LTA FORC3
Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:46:00 -
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meh played firefall it was lacking
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56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.22 23:10:00 -
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and new blood day or( n-day with you well) has come, it looks like we are going to have our hands full today onword.... |
Ripcord19981
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
20
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:43:00 -
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56 truth wrote:im i the only one who is feeling two sided about the whole open beta thing or im i just being overly pessimistic and cynical?....
Dust really isn't ready. I know its still "beta" but like I said in some other threads, first impressions mean everything. |
Frontline Medic
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:25:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:56 truth wrote:im i the only one who is feeling two sided about the whole open beta thing or im i just being overly pessimistic and cynical?.... Dust really isn't ready. I know its still "beta" but like I said in some other threads, first impressions mean everything.
May be that some walkaway just to come back months from now when things are fixxed,ftp game that it is will prolly see a lot of that. |
56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:46:00 -
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Frontline Medic wrote:Ripcord19981 wrote:56 truth wrote:im i the only one who is feeling two sided about the whole open beta thing or im i just being overly pessimistic and cynical?.... Dust really isn't ready. I know its still "beta" but like I said in some other threads, first impressions mean everything. May be that some walkaway just to come back months from now when things are fixxed,ftp game that it is will prolly see a lot of that.
? by "some walkaway" do you mean someone who gave up on the beta? if thats the case no, please reread the thread to get an idea where im coming from.... |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:49:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:Dust really isn't ready. I know its still "beta" but like I said in some other threads, first impressions mean everything.
For a free game it's less important. People will come and go. Without any fee to purchase the game and without a subscription fee, people have very few obstacles to prevent them from giving the game another shot in the future. First impressions are still important, and Dust is pretty rough right now, but it probably isn't the end of the world. |
56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:51:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:56 truth wrote:im i the only one who is feeling two sided about the whole open beta thing or im i just being overly pessimistic and cynical?.... Dust really isn't ready. I know its still "beta" but like I said in some other threads, first impressions mean everything.
thats what i was saying pertty much was saying for the most part... |
56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:55:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Ripcord19981 wrote:Dust really isn't ready. I know its still "beta" but like I said in some other threads, first impressions mean everything. For a free game it's less important. People will come and go. Without any fee to purchase the game and without a subscription fee, people have very few obstacles to prevent them from giving the game another shot in the future. First impressions are still important, and Dust is pretty rough right now, but it probably isn't the end of the world.
true but for game that in the fourfoint of transgaming it best if it put its best foot forward more or less |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
189
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:55:00 -
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I would say just remember we were all new once. Give a man isk and he can fight for a day. Teach a man to earn SP and he can fight for a lifetime. |
56 truth
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:57:00 -
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56 truth wrote:it not so much about the inflex of new bloods but more that transgaming/transmedia is going to be a thing one way or another and all eyes are on dust however ccp seems too "unworryed" if you get what i am saying...
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