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Arramakaian Eka wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

The big issue is that you'd be forcing Eve players into a situation where they literally have no ability to defend themselves and their losses are exorbitantly larger than anything you will ever lose.

Your prototype suit and a full load gear might cost a couple of hundred thousand isk but that ship that you're wanting to board and kill the pilot of is worth billions, not to mention takes an entire corporation worth of players all working together to gather materials for a project that takes literally weeks.

You can't just say, "Screw Eve players" because you're ******* with their investment and when you literally force them to buy a $250 peripheral and invest their own time and effort into actually trying to defend themselves on another console - that's entirely ******. It's the same as allowing Eve players FREELY (without requesting it first after gaining enough war points) fire down on the planet you're on without any way of firing back.

So, yeah, I'd be game for it if I don't have to wait for someone to request an orbital strike and you can't fire back. Past that, you're just asking for a way to grief Eve players who's combined losses would be thousands of times what you would ever lose.

You do realize we are mercs? That means that just like someone can hire mercs to board and take over a Titan, the Titan owner can hire mercs to defend it.

Man, that would be beautiful.


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Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.01.14 09:53:00 - [1] - Quote The big issue is that you'd be forcing Eve players into a situation where they literally have no ability to defend themselves and their losses are exorbitantly larger than anything you will ever lose. Your prototype suit and a full load gear might cost a couple of hundred thousand isk but that ship that you're wanting to board and kill the pilot of is worth billions, not to mention takes an entire corporation worth of players all working together to gather materials for a project that takes literally weeks. You can't just say, "Screw Eve players" because you're ***** with their investment and when you literally force them to buy a $250 peripheral and invest their own time and effort into actually trying to defend themselves on another console - that's entirely ****. It's the same as allowing Eve players FREELY (without requesting it first after gaining enough war points) fire down on the planet you're on without any way of firing back. So, yeah, I'd be game for it if I don't have to wait for someone to request an orbital strike and you can't fire back. Past that, you're just asking for a way to grief Eve players who's combined losses would be thousands of times what you would ever lose.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.01.14 11:55:00 - [2] - Quote Arramakaian Eka wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: The big issue is that you'd be forcing Eve players into a situation where they literally have no ability to defend themselves and their losses are exorbitantly larger than anything you will ever lose. Your prototype suit and a full load gear might cost a couple of hundred thousand isk but that ship that you're wanting to board and kill the pilot of is worth billions, not to mention takes an entire corporation worth of players all working together to gather materials for a project that takes literally weeks. You can't just say, "Screw Eve players" because you're ***** with their investment and when you literally force them to buy a $250 peripheral and invest their own time and effort into actually trying to defend themselves on another console - that's entirely ****. It's the same as allowing Eve players FREELY (without requesting it first after gaining enough war points) fire down on the planet you're on without any way of firing back. So, yeah, I'd be game for it if I don't have to wait for someone to request an orbital strike and you can't fire back. Past that, you're just asking for a way to grief Eve players who's combined losses would be thousands of times what you would ever lose. You do realize we are mercs? That means that just like someone can hire mercs to board and take over a Titan, the Titan owner can hire mercs to defend it. Man, that would be beautiful. Okay, so a pre-determined match in which I could hire mercenaries... Why the hell would I do that, exactly? Why not just repackage the ship or put in a corporate hanger where you can't access it? Better yet, why not just sell it to someone else or at the very least -GIVE- them the ship? Hell, why not give it to one of your friends so you're basically killing him instead? Why not just eject from the ship and leave it hanging out in space where I could just have my fleet destroy it if you're so hell-bent on taking it? There's a thousand different variables you're not taking into account. Either way it all adds up to the fact that you're going to be directly influencing me into something that I barely have any control over and absolutely no way to perform direct intervention. Sure, I could hire some mercs but then I'm just risking them taking my ISK and disregarding the match entirely. Then I'm really in a situation because not only have I been scammed, I've got no-one to guard my ship and no way of preventing you from taking it. Just saying you want to/can do something is ridiculous. Why should you be allowed to directly affect something I've worked years for when the only option for prevention/intervention is hiring some nobodies who may or may not be able to defeat you?
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.01.14 13:10:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There where also was a second collasp of society after the wormhole closed. Yu Yang, Sleepers, Talocan, Tackmal fell apart . The jovians fell apart twice already. I've still got money that one day we'll be able to go to Jove Space and run level 10 missions and level 20 complexes.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.01.14 15:05:00 - [4] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: i hope im going to be aible to board ships, shot the pilot in the face with a shotgun and then fly that thing into the next star avaible. Collect the bounty and then say on local: "you mad son that you cant put a bounty on me?" Lulz, yeah fly it with all that interstellar clone tech you've got. Be lucky if you could even get the propulsion to work.