DUST Search - So where is the balance?

Jason Pearson wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

This is quickly becoming a "classic" thread, so I will try to put this down before it is buried under thousands of argument comments between the AV people and the HAV pilots.

You can't be asking for balance before anyone has gotten to standard tanks yet, the AV grenade is a standard piece of equipment, and the tanks in use currently are militia, so it is hardly a comparison. A standard locus grenade can OHK militia heavies, so you should be so lucky that three standard AV grenades will only severely damage your militia tank.

Standard av grenades do 1500 damage per nade. Swarms do 1200 per volley and forges do about the same... Yep a little stick doing that much damage is ridiculous IMO

1500 isn't **** to a standard tank with decent mods, but you are running militia, and like I said, you can't complain about balance without matching standard against standard. Go get a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with decent mods(basically no militia mods), get hit by three AV grenades, die, then come back to talk balance.
But I'm thinking you won't die.

Most shield tanks have about 6000-7000HP

so a single standard AV Grenade will deal 1/5 of it's total EHP.
So thats two of you launching standard AV Grenades at a Tank with a full crew, it'll kill it as he activates boosters and the 6th one lands. If theres 3 of you (so 3v3) he won't stand a chance.

AV and Tanks are not balanced.


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Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.01.13 01:07:00 - [1] - Quote You want an AV grenade nerf???? The person with an AV grenade has to try and escape infantry and be out of the view of a tank with 2 gunners. Then he has to throw grenades and be standing in a nanohive to reload and throw some more. Most tanks drive off after the 2nd grenade and you can't chase it into the spawn. Plus, the tank kills you more times than not. Wait...is this a troll or a serious thread asking for av grenades to be nerfed??
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.01.13 02:45:00 - [2] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Logi Bro wrote: This is quickly becoming a "classic" thread, so I will try to put this down before it is buried under thousands of argument comments between the AV people and the HAV pilots. You can't be asking for balance before anyone has gotten to standard tanks yet, the AV grenade is a standard piece of equipment, and the tanks in use currently are militia, so it is hardly a comparison. A standard locus grenade can OHK militia heavies, so you should be so lucky that three standard AV grenades will only severely damage your militia tank. Standard av grenades do 1500 damage per nade. Swarms do 1200 per volley and forges do about the same... Yep a little stick doing that much damage is ridiculous IMO 1500 isn't **** to a standard tank with decent mods, but you are running militia, and like I said, you can't complain about balance without matching standard against standard. Go get a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with decent mods(basically no militia mods), get hit by three AV grenades, die, then come back to talk balance. But I'm thinking you won't die. Most shield tanks have about 6000-7000HP so a single standard AV Grenade will deal 1/5 of it's total EHP. So thats two of you launching standard AV Grenades at a Tank with a full crew, it'll kill it as he activates boosters and the 6th one lands. If theres 3 of you (so 3v3) he won't stand a chance. AV and Tanks are not balanced. I'm not sure...how would you "balance" it? You know how hard it is to try and get close enough to a tank to launch AVs at it? You may have to gun down 2 or 3 guys just chasing the tank. They don't stick around once they lose a little shields. So, if you throw one grenade on it, they retreat. You have to really flank those tanks. And some of those guys really make it hard. You may die 3x before you throw your first grenade. Tanks need counters...and just because grenades are effective, it doesn't mean that they need to be nerfed. And if 3 people attack a vehicle, it deserves to be blown up. Otherwise, infantry will never stand a chance. In BF3, you can solo a tank and finish it with C4. It isn't so easy in Dust....and the tanks can kill you just as fast as any tank in any shooter.