Wow, quite the rant coupled with a 12 year old circle-jerk. Just a general observation on the very mature and constructive tone.

Anyway, I fail to see the problem, or at least I have not experienced this as an issue personally. Adapting tactically often helps.

reading would imply you have a better understanding of the English language. It would imply that you would know how to spell, how to use popper grammar, and so on.

to bad.

Hmm. Mr Z (imperfect) on a rant. Again.
Sleepy Zane (Imperfect), the perma-griefer, agrees. Again. Zaney loves dem rants from Mr. Z.

Probable cause: Mr Z lost, something: Match, HAV, Mind (no proof of previous existence so never mind).

Analysis: Mr. Z got p0wned by a noob in a Militia suit with a Forge while he was stuck in Militia HAV because his gazillion SP was wiped.

Results: Mr Z rage with capslock on. Internet screaming enabled. Thought processes disabled by default.

Move on, nothing to see here.

He does have a point.

A lot of militia stuff is so good that there is really no reason to ever upgrade.

Best example? Shotguns and grenades. A militia shotgun can OHK even a really good suit, maybe two shots for a good heavy if they've fit for health.

Grenades can OHK pretty much any non heavy as well. Your standard upgrade? You just get an additional nade. If you've got nanohives, might as well just stick with the militia and save yourself the ISK.


Free suits are bad for the game, IMO. I'm becoming less and less sold on BPO items as time goes on. People just use free stuff even if it's 'not as good' (READ: Still able to own everything) because it doesn't cost them anything. In a game that's supposed to be defined by risk vs reward, the best reward comes from taking no risk. It's kind of silly.

But I digress!

Like Zitro said in the OP, there needs to be a reason to upgrade. The best reason would be to remove BPO's, and actually make militia have worse stats than standard. (Sure, some things have like a smaller clip and take more PG/CPU, but that is insignificant in the eyes of most) The wider the gap is between tiers, the better the incentive is to upgrade. The recent flattening of the tiers had the opposite effect of what should happen. Everyone is/was just sticking with BPO and militia suits instead of upgrading because it's pretty much just as effective.

First off I can tell half you guys are do not even understand what your talking about.

Now on to Militant tanks vs militant AV there is no balance here. Militant AV by far has the advantage. First off most expensive militant swarm fit is free. Most expensive forge fit is less then 2k. Both can 3 hit pure militant fit tanks with out sp put into them. 4 hit if your skills are maxed out and tank is militant fit. Militant tanks cost 150k about to fit out all militant with BPO modules included. Can cost up to 200k with out BPOs BPOs have to be payed for by real life money.

Militant gear performs as good as standard for the most part forge gun is missing 1 round swarms 2 rounds

Militant swarms vs armor actually hit harder then advanced swarms base damage.

So in the main what zitro is saying is there is no balance across the tiers of AV vs the tiers of tanks. In pup matches no one has to go past militant gear to take down most standard tanks even proto tanks can easily be turned by team of smart players with militant AV. AV is not balanced because no one has a reason to really spec into it. why spec into a proto swarm when I can get a group of kids to run in militant and easily destroy any tank out there.

Militant AV is unbalanced currently. get a squad of 4 guys with militant forges they can melt a proto tank like nothing and there is no way for ground people to be quick enough to engage and kill of the 4 guys before they launch there second shot which will kill the tank. Get 4 guys with militant swarms and you will combat any armor tank on the field if you do not stand in the middle of the road as a easy kill. I watch proto armor tanks melt to militia swarms.

Swarms can hid behind cover while locking aim up and fire repeat with out any risk. Forge guys can head glitch while firing a hip fired weapon and I am at there mercy and forced to back up because it is impossible to hit them with my blaster while they are still able to hit me with there hip fired forge. but that is a different **** up on ccps behalf anyways.

And all CCP keeps balancing things such as tanks toward militia gear.

Do you truely think it is fair that a enemy team can take out a proto tank with out having to have one guy speced into AV. Because you just need part of your team to convert to militia gear to take out the tank and all they sacrifice is k/d while tankers sacrifice a couple million isk per tank.

And for militia AV verses militia tanks all you sacrifice is K/D because your AV fit is free against a tanker who risks 350k+ to fit a militant tank to survive more then one person AVing it with milita gear.

Sorry militant gear is cheap and not balanced for its performance lvls. It outperforms any militant vehicle.

And for AV grenades I agree on how deadly they are against armor tanks I can 3 hit any soma and been 3 hitting some guys madrugar all night with my standard AV nades.

posting this here so ccp might see it

posting this here so ccp might see it