we dont like people getting rewarded for doing nothing either. what we're suggesting is status quo SP rewards [as SP is battle experience] but ISK to the winners of matches. losers would get no ISK. give the piece a look over.

No ISK to the losers? That's about as ******** as your blogs.

Yeah, stupid noobs. They deserve nothing. Really, think about it. It is luck in pub games which side you are. win or loose.

we dont like people getting rewarded for doing nothing either. what we're suggesting is status quo SP rewards [as SP is battle experience] but ISK to the winners of matches. losers would get no ISK. give the piece a look over.

the problem is we're fighting over a simulated planets these little maps/matches are not even actual fights for anything concrete other than some so called acceptance by the community as the only reward, so you can't blame players for not being all into the word VICTORY on another meaningless pub match especially if they're lone wolfing it why should they care so much over something as mundane as another pub match victory, and the stat is not even being trackd- dont blame player blame the game for making us continue to endure these meaningless simulated matches,

and you can't blame players for padding kdr when they provide us with no other stat to be tracked plus everyone takes kdr srs as a prereq for some corps, again not the players fault that CCP has not provided us with more meaningful stats to be tracked

It wouldn't work to motivate anyone to risk more ISK gear to break out of being redlined. Nobody is going to throw good money after bad, and the threat of not breaking even would actually discourage fighting. The winning team on the other hand would just love to destroy the most expensive equipment fielded to further pad their winnings.

Free/BPO fittings aren't likely to turn the tide of a battle, so the result old just be a cementing of the imbalance.

There is no penalty to sitting in your spawn or sniping from the redline, nor will there ever likely be. If a penalty large enough to force someone out into a certain meat grinder was implemented, it would simply result in desertion. People would be so ticked off they would quit in protest rather than die over and over even in free fits.

Penalizing a losing team with no/low ISK actually has the perverse effect of making them more cautious, not less.

One has to carefully examine the effects of any proposed change from all points of view, not from only one side which is the mistake you have made.

Putting a gun to someone's head won't motivate them to perform heroics. Start thinking about rewards that would motivate someone to do something risky and foolhardy and you might ind the solution you are looking for.

when u get defensive u tell on ur self. he makes a good point. losers should not get same rewards as winners.

The downside to the "pay to finish" scheme is that players can still just spawn, stay in their spawn area ( in skirmish, ambush has no safe spawn ) doing nothing ( and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING - not even firing a shot ), and finish the match, and still get thousands of SP and over a hundred thousand ISK. (easier SP/ISK Farming than ever)