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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:54:00 -
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Another Fat Bastard wrote:Seriously? WTF Is up with this game? A heavy is supposed to be a walking tank no? So have you ever heard of a tank that can be put down in 1.5 seconds from an assault rifle? This is riddiculous. I have made my claim to support, hopefully they will give me my manoey back. Describing the heavies as a walking tank and then making them die so easy is clearly false advertising.
And whats up with the HMG, it does less damage than the assault rifles. Have you ever heard of a multibarrel cannon doing less damage than a rifle? Its sick I tell you , really sick.
Another Fat Bastard wrote:So I get shot by a sniper every time I get dropped? I don't think so.
And how come i only got 1 "like", I was expecting at least 20. I mean, I'm like the only one in this thread trying to be constructive.
You obviously decided to go with the toughest sounding class and expected it to be invincible from day one. Do you happen to know why we have skills and tiered gear? Now, once you max out your class and go up against people at as low a level as you are currently at now, yes, you can expect to be like a walking tank. But even then, if you play stupidly, you can still be taken out easily.
And you only got one like probably because someone thought you were just being an obvious troll and liked your troll attempt. No one else liked it because they all realized what a tard you are being by expecting instant invulnerability by picking the highest HP class when you are fighting against Dust players who have been rofl stomping each other for months now in this game and know this game better than you know your ****.
Integral Zan wrote:I agree with the OP, ARs shouldn't harm heavies that much but my AV nades should one shot them I want my swarms to lock on too dammit! Walking or rolling, my swarm should track every tank on the field! I'll flash fry that fatty right in his suit with rocket fueled awesomeness! |
Hawkings Greenback
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:00:00 -
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Integral Zan wrote:I agree with the OP, ARs shouldn't harm heavies that much but my AV nades should one shot them
I would like to add proximity explosives to the list. |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
15
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:03:00 -
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Yes a heavy is proclaimed by CCP to be a "walking tank" if you will, but honestly being an assault guy myself I do have a sense that heavies have some kind of reduction when AR's are fired upon them. I can take down a assault guy with close to 650 total HP in one clip (before reset of course), but even before reset I could unload a duvolle into a heavy with similar amounts of HP and it would just about take a clip and a half to finish that sucker off and my proficiency was at level 5! Granted about 90% of the time I come across a heavy we happen to go toe to toe so when hip firing; realistically probably about 'maybe' 80% of the bullets make contact but that math alone says it should drop them but it doesn't seem to work that way unfortunately. Nonetheless you can't be infantry and not take shots from an AR, we would transition this thread into assault classes or scout classes etc complaining about how a assault rifle doesn't kill a heavy.
-When all else fails, whip out a shotgun and fused locus grenade, heavies love those kind of gifts* |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:23:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:Yes a heavy is proclaimed by CCP to be a "walking tank" if you will, but honestly being an assault guy myself I do have a sense that heavies have some kind of reduction when AR's are fired upon them. I can take down a assault guy with close to 650 total HP in one clip (before reset of course), but even before reset I could unload a duvolle into a heavy with similar amounts of HP and it would just about take a clip and a half to finish that sucker off and my proficiency was at level 5! Granted about 90% of the time I come across a heavy we happen to go toe to toe so when hip firing; realistically probably about 'maybe' 80% of the bullets make contact but that math alone says it should drop them but it doesn't seem to work that way unfortunately. Nonetheless you can't be infantry and not take shots from an AR, we would transition this thread into assault classes or scout classes etc complaining about how a assault rifle doesn't kill a heavy.
-When all else fails, whip out a shotgun and fused locus grenade, heavies love those kind of gifts*
You'll never find a heavy with 650 hp. They always have much more and most good heavies will have around 1000 ehp |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:29:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:Keep on trolling
OP you should change your name to "Another Fat Trolling Bastard"
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HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2242
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:38:00 -
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Integral Zan wrote:I agree with the OP, ARs shouldn't harm heavies that much but my AV nades should one shot them
The OP is definetly on too something here assault rifles should do no damage, and of course snipere rifles should do no damage to heavies, oh and forge guns should do no damage. And of course I will except the grenades the way they are as long as they do no damage to heavies either.
Heavies need to be invincible and take no damage ever! I like this post. |
DJINN Kujo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
15
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:40:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:Yes a heavy is proclaimed by CCP to be a "walking tank" if you will, but honestly being an assault guy myself I do have a sense that heavies have some kind of reduction when AR's are fired upon them. I can take down a assault guy with close to 650 total HP in one clip (before reset of course), but even before reset I could unload a duvolle into a heavy with similar amounts of HP and it would just about take a clip and a half to finish that sucker off and my proficiency was at level 5! Granted about 90% of the time I come across a heavy we happen to go toe to toe so when hip firing; realistically probably about 'maybe' 80% of the bullets make contact but that math alone says it should drop them but it doesn't seem to work that way unfortunately. Nonetheless you can't be infantry and not take shots from an AR, we would transition this thread into assault classes or scout classes etc complaining about how a assault rifle doesn't kill a heavy.
-When all else fails, whip out a shotgun and fused locus grenade, heavies love those kind of gifts* You'll never find a heavy with 650 hp. They always have much more and most good heavies will have around 1000 ehp
Hence the 'simllar' portion, I don't know first hand cause I am not a heavy by all means, but I know a lot of heavies that don't even put shield extenders on or armor plating cause they like to move quicker, which leaves them around 800? If I am not mistaken... could be wrong and by all means correct me if I am. But not sure what it is, but the amount of a damage a bullet does to a heavy I just don't think is comparable to other classes, realistically you should be able to drop a heavy (with 800 hp) in about .... we will say 30 shots with at least 31 damage a bullet from an AR, some reason that is almost never the case (sad) |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:15:00 -
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How does the OP suggest we should kill a heavy? With AV grenades and lock on swarm launchers?? |
Chilled Pill
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
26
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:26:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:How does the OP suggest we should kill a heavy? With AV grenades and lock on swarm launchers??
By throwing rocks at it and calling it fat. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:33:00 -
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Another Fat Bastard wrote:So I get shot by a sniper every time I get dropped? I don't think so.
And how come i only got 1 "like", I was expecting at least 20. I mean, I'm like the only one in this thread trying to be constructive.
heavys were OP like that then everyone used them, if you find it ineffective you must skill into it, say if someone has a level 3 gek its going to stomp your militia level heavy. |
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Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
225
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:41:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:maybe we should take him down with a scrambler pistol instead I love it, they think they're unstoppable but with a little cover and an idiot heavy without support, a militia scrambler pistol does the trick EVERY TIME. It does pay to go for head shots though and helps if you upgrade sidearm ammo capacity. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
893
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:43:00 -
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To the idea of ARs NOT doing damage to heavies..... not no, but **** no.
*Message from an avid heavy suit user.* |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
383
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:43:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:To the idea of ARs NOT doing damage to heavies..... not no, but **** no.
*Message from an avid heavy suit user.*
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Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:53:00 -
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Im all for it but only if heavies emit a "gas" that protects ppl downwind with the same benefit. |
Another Fat Bastard
IQQ all day
3
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:06:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Integral Zan wrote:I agree with the OP, ARs shouldn't harm heavies that much but my AV nades should one shot them The OP is definetly on too something here assault rifles should do no damage, and of course snipere rifles should do no damage to heavies, oh and forge guns should do no damage. And of course I will except the grenades the way they are as long as they do no damage to heavies either. Heavies need to be invincible and take no damage ever! I like this post.
Finally someone that takes this important debate seriously, the rest who doesn't have anything constructive to say, GTFO.
Well I wouldn't say that snipers should do no damage, those are large caliber weapons and do have some serious stopping power and not least armor penetration abilities. So they should definately be able to penetrate my armor and do some damage. AR rounds, SMG rounds, Pistols and so on are very small bullets with not a lot of stopping power and should bounce of my armor.
Nades should do half damage, the schrapnel isn't that dangerous but the sheer explosive force should at least do some damage. Lazers is ok and the various cannons on the field too. Besides, there is a lot of vehicle cannons that does damage too. See? there is still plenty of stuff that I want to continue damaging me. Plenty.
And whats up with this Troll? Is that the Dust slang for heavies? Wouldn't Ogre be a better term? They're cool and witty, just look at Shrek. Can't we call the heavies for Ogre instead of Troll from now on? Its just better. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
383
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:09:00 -
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Troll is the slang term for idiots being idiots, however ogres are kick*** drones in Eve (not particularly bright though) |
Another Fat Bastard
IQQ all day
3
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:11:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Troll is the slang term for idiots being idiots, however ogres are kick*** drones in Eve
That is very true, just read the Hobit, trolls aren't very smart!
+1 |
trollolollo man
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
24
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:12:00 -
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-1 for this.... the game its right balanced right now A haevy right skilled is a tank but a militia haevy not and this is right |
Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:17:00 -
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You realise that the AR and Scrambler Pistol shoot plasma, Right?
On another note; horrible idea, roughly 75% of the player base use the AR. Talk about game-breaking |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
219
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:22:00 -
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Another Fat Bastard wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Integral Zan wrote:I agree with the OP, ARs shouldn't harm heavies that much but my AV nades should one shot them The OP is definetly on too something here assault rifles should do no damage, and of course snipere rifles should do no damage to heavies, oh and forge guns should do no damage. And of course I will except the grenades the way they are as long as they do no damage to heavies either. Heavies need to be invincible and take no damage ever! I like this post. Finally someone that takes this important debate seriously, the rest who doesn't have anything constructive to say, GTFO. Well I wouldn't say that snipers should do no damage, those are large caliber weapons and do have some serious stopping power and not least armor penetration abilities. So they should definately be able to penetrate my armor and do some damage. AR rounds, SMG rounds, Pistols and so on are very small bullets with not a lot of stopping power and should bounce of my armor. Nades should do half damage, the schrapnel isn't that dangerous but the sheer explosive force should at least do some damage. Lazers is ok and the various cannons on the field too. Besides, there is a lot of vehicle cannons that does damage too. See? there is still plenty of stuff that I want to continue damaging me. Plenty. And whats up with this Troll? Is that the Dust slang for heavies? Wouldn't Ogre be a better term? They're cool and witty, just look at Shrek. Can't we call the heavies for Ogre instead of Troll from now on? Its just better.
You clearly don't have a good handle on forum sarcasm - that guy's post agreeing with you was being intentionally ridiculous. He was trolling you - i.e. making fun of you and making your argument look stupid, which it is. And there are loads of 'constructive' posts responding to your ridiculous OP - just because you disagree with them, doesn't make them non-constructive. |
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Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:23:00 -
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Another Fat Bastard wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Integral Zan wrote:I agree with the OP, ARs shouldn't harm heavies that much but my AV nades should one shot them The OP is definetly on too something here assault rifles should do no damage, and of course snipere rifles should do no damage to heavies, oh and forge guns should do no damage. And of course I will except the grenades the way they are as long as they do no damage to heavies either. Heavies need to be invincible and take no damage ever! I like this post. Finally someone that takes this important debate seriously, the rest who doesn't have anything constructive to say, GTFO. Well I wouldn't say that snipers should do no damage, those are large caliber weapons and do have some serious stopping power and not least armor penetration abilities. So they should definately be able to penetrate my armor and do some damage. AR rounds, SMG rounds, Pistols and so on are very small bullets with not a lot of stopping power and should bounce of my armor. Nades should do half damage, the schrapnel isn't that dangerous but the sheer explosive force should at least do some damage. Lazers is ok and the various cannons on the field too. Besides, there is a lot of vehicle cannons that does damage too. See? there is still plenty of stuff that I want to continue damaging me. Plenty. And whats up with this Troll? Is that the Dust slang for heavies? Wouldn't Ogre be a better term? They're cool and witty, just look at Shrek. Can't we call the heavies for Ogre instead of Troll from now on? Its just better.
I think you need to get your sarcasm meter calibrated troll. |
Foley Jones
R.I.f.t
122
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:26:00 -
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Another Fat Bastard wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Integral Zan wrote:I agree with the OP, ARs shouldn't harm heavies that much but my AV nades should one shot them The OP is definetly on too something here assault rifles should do no damage, and of course snipere rifles should do no damage to heavies, oh and forge guns should do no damage. And of course I will except the grenades the way they are as long as they do no damage to heavies either. Heavies need to be invincible and take no damage ever! I like this post. Finally someone that takes this important debate seriously, the rest who doesn't have anything constructive to say, GTFO. Well I wouldn't say that snipers should do no damage, those are large caliber weapons and do have some serious stopping power and not least armor penetration abilities. So they should definately be able to penetrate my armor and do some damage. AR rounds, SMG rounds, Pistols and so on are very small bullets with not a lot of stopping power and should bounce of my armor. Nades should do half damage, the schrapnel isn't that dangerous but the sheer explosive force should at least do some damage. Lazers is ok and the various cannons on the field too. Besides, there is a lot of vehicle cannons that does damage too. See? there is still plenty of stuff that I want to continue damaging me. Plenty. And whats up with this Troll? Is that the Dust slang for heavies? Wouldn't Ogre be a better term? They're cool and witty, just look at Shrek. Can't we call the heavies for Ogre instead of Troll from now on? Its just better.
Ok I think its legit....he's trolling about this entire post |
Another Fat Bastard
IQQ all day
3
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:27:00 -
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So you're all saying that:
Troll = stupid person = me ????
Edit: BTW what is plasma? (I have a plasma TV, very good, very big. But now I'm just silly ) So plasma is a sort of armor piercing bullet? |
ImMortal SoLDieR X
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:27:00 -
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START TRANSMISSION..................
ASSAULT RIFLES WITH NO DAMAGE TO HEAVYS' ???????
Hahahahhahhahhhhahahahhahahahhaaaahahahahahahhahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaahahahahhahahaaahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahhhhahhahahahahahahhahhhhhhhhhahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhahhhahhhhhaahhhhhhhhhahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahhahaha
and futhermore,....... HA!!!!! HA!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL..........
(OP) ............... ERR ...ERR..... ERR .......ERR.......... dhur dhur dhur double dhur........WHAT'S PLASMA?........... HEE HAW ...............HEE HAWW.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......
GOOD LUCK WIT DAT !!!!
END TRANSMISSION......................... |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:29:00 -
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10/10 for the amount of replies farmed |
Foley Jones
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:32:00 -
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I hope you are trolling because if your serious friend I have to tell you that if this SOMEHOW got to CCP and they agreed then well....everybody will be saying heavies are insanly op and...why wou-...it makes my f***ing brain hurt trying to imagine what the fourm would look like |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:32:00 -
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Lol you had me for a second there - I almost really believed you were too stupid to understand what people have been saying but then you didn't know what plasma was and it gave it all away. Shame, you were doing quite a decent clandestine troll there for a while - kudos but no likes. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
338
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:36:00 -
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To his credit this has been one of funnyer trolls for a while |
Chibi Andy
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:37:00 -
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so according to OP's logic we have to nerf the AR or make it so that heavies take no damage? And can i assume if we went with his/her logic we should nerf the heavy as well then? So that heavies only deal damage to vehicles instead of troops? If the AR is dealing too much damage can it be said the heavies are too armored? if everyone is up for nerfing the AR then i suggest we also nerf the heavy to balance it out, otherwise we'd be tossing av nades and carrying swarm launchers instead to take out a heavy etc etc |
Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:38:00 -
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You know... Saying you don't know what plasma is, just gave away everything... |
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