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Luke Vetri
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:13:00 -
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I can't for the life of me find the thread I thought I saw talking about this, just wondering if anyone was smart enough to have written down the stats for the assult and logi suits and compared side by side?
How much sheild/arm do use loose as a logi compared to an assult?
Would skilling Logi suit for assult use be a terrible idea? |
Free Healing
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.10 04:05:00 -
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I'll try to get you a side by side comparison once the migration is over.
Until then my answer is that it depends on what you want the suit geared for. If all you want is to kill your opponent while providing minimal support then you'll want to stay with Assault. If you'd like to focus on supporting your team and forgoing most to all solo missions then you'll want to play as a Logi.
Keep the Faith. |
1CLIP 1KILL
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.10 04:12:00 -
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Luke Vetri wrote:Would skilling Logi suit for assult use be a terrible idea?
Yes. Logi is armor heavy. Right now, shield is better. Also, logi is slower (due to extra armor) and has less stamina. Assault also gives you an extra weapon slot. If you want to shoot people, weapons are good. |
Luke Vetri
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.10 06:41:00 -
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Thanks for the info, I had trained up pure Assault, but wondering if I could use a logi suit and still be competitive with the added fit flexibility of the logi
From what you said the answer is no, they are too slow, and lacking in the shields. I'll stay with my plan of raw assault, then when/if I get spare SP add logi suite for a second role. |
Thurak Mirunas
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.10 19:07:00 -
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looking at it the difference is logi gets a little more CPU and PG, has more equipment slots, but its tank is a bit weaker and it runs a little slower, also using assault you can use the type-2 and get a better shield tank option, the type-2 for logi loses an equipment slot and gets its speed increased to that of an assault |
I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.10 20:58:00 -
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As far as I know, type I Assault suit has 125 shield and 175 armor. Type I logi suit has 125 shield and 150 armor. (I could be wrong though).
The biggest advantage of the Assault suit is that the type II can run shields much better than a logi can with its 205 shield stat. However, the logi can fit one more low powered slot in every suit, and has a ton more pg/cpu to run those extra modules.
Using the logi suit can be a wonderful assault class as long as you fit it right. For instance, don't expect to equip more than 1 or 2 equipment even if you have 3 slots. Better yet, if you can run the type II suit, you get faster movement speed for the one equipment slot you won't need.
The reason I say this is that while the assault suit is fine for any kind of combat, it lacks the pg/cpu that the logi has in order to fit the best modules, and multiple of them, alongside a sidearm/grenade/ equipment. |
Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
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Posted - 2013.01.11 00:01:00 -
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For militia Assault
Militia Assault Logi
Shield 125 125
Armor 175 150
Recharge15 21.2
Delay 6 5
Dep Delay10 10
Speed 5 4.7
Sprint 7 6.6
Duration 15 12
Stamina 150 120
Recovery15 12
Scan Prof50 50
Scan Prec55 50
Scan Rad15 15
CPU 150 195
PG 26 25
High 2 1
Low 1 2
Equip1 2
Side Arm1 0
That was more work then it was worth to post so that is all I will post. But the basic idea comparison carries to the higher levels too, except for type ii.
*Edit* And of course they don't like carry my columns over to the actual post... |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:10:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:As far as I know, type I Assault suit has 125 shield and 175 armor. Type I logi suit has 125 shield and 150 armor. (I could be wrong though).
The biggest advantage of the Assault suit is that the type II can run shields much better than a logi can with its 205 shield stat. However, the logi can fit one more low powered slot in every suit, and has a ton more pg/cpu to run those extra modules.
Using the logi suit can be a wonderful assault class as long as you fit it right. For instance, don't expect to equip more than 1 or 2 equipment even if you have 3 slots. Better yet, if you can run the type II suit, you get faster movement speed for the one equipment slot you won't need.
The reason I say this is that while the assault suit is fine for any kind of combat, it lacks the pg/cpu that the logi has in order to fit the best modules, and multiple of them, alongside a sidearm/grenade/ equipment.
This is a good post. Assault suits can run shields and handle damage mods alot better due to not having to use up CPU on equipment.
I disagree with not using all of the equipment slots as you are negating the point of using a Logi suit, if you are having troubles with fittings then you must grab nanocircuitary V it will decrease the CPU requirements for the nanohives and injectors by 25% b aware "basic" equipment in the market has very low CPU requirements try fiting bits of that.
I can normaly fit a nanohive,repair tool and injector very easily on a tier I suit. Im doing that with a GEK already this build.
Skills to help a logi would be light weapon upgrades or running a sub machine gun (becareful you will need a boatload of investment to make them competitive)
If you want to run Logi, then make sure you have good skills in armor repairers these are critical when trying to stay in the fight. Plus when combined with a Repair nanohive it gives your a drastic increase in your ability to hold 100% armor.
Another good mod is the shield regulator as it sits in the low slots and helps with keeping your shield up to protect what little armor you have. |
Mr Gloo Gloo
What The French
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Posted - 2013.01.11 12:38:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:As far as I know, type I Assault suit has 125 shield and 175 armor. Type I logi suit has 125 shield and 150 armor. (I could be wrong though).
The biggest advantage of the Assault suit is that the type II can run shields much better than a logi can with its 205 shield stat. However, the logi can fit one more low powered slot in every suit, and has a ton more pg/cpu to run those extra modules.
Using the logi suit can be a wonderful assault class as long as you fit it right. For instance, don't expect to equip more than 1 or 2 equipment even if you have 3 slots. Better yet, if you can run the type II suit, you get faster movement speed for the one equipment slot you won't need.
The reason I say this is that while the assault suit is fine for any kind of combat, it lacks the pg/cpu that the logi has in order to fit the best modules, and multiple of them, alongside a sidearm/grenade/ equipment.
I can fit 3 equipment on Type-1 SVER, Shield extend + Damage modifier/Shield Booster, Armor plate + Armor repairer, Exil, nade, and everything in BPOs...
You can do it. |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:20:00 -
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Assault logistics is a viable role, but it depends on your play style and you have to skill up a broader range of skills to increase mobility and health.
The advantage of logistics is you get more slots and power for your suit, so you have much more flexibility to fit more/better modules. If you want to be selfish, many pieces of equipment can benefit you. nanohives can repair your armor and give you ammo. Drop uplinks give you a safe strategic spawn. Explosives offer offensive options.
The advantage of assault is mostly the sidearm slot and speed. A sidearm means you can use specialty weapons like swarm launchers that would leave a logistics player quite vulnerable. |
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.11 19:44:00 -
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Moonracer2000 wrote:Assault logistics is a viable role, but it depends on your play style and you have to skill up a broader range of skills to increase mobility and health.
The advantage of logistics is you get more slots and power for your suit, so you have much more flexibility to fit more/better modules. If you want to be selfish, many pieces of equipment can benefit you. nanohives can repair your armor and give you ammo. Drop uplinks give you a safe strategic spawn. Explosives offer offensive options.
The advantage of assault is mostly the sidearm slot and speed. A sidearm means you can use specialty weapons like swarm launchers that would leave a logistics player quite vulnerable.
Yeah. You're choice of weapon is going to make a lot of difference when considering an assault Logibro. You're pretty much stuck with whatever you pick for a primary weapon, so I'd stick with the Assault suit if you ever plan on using anything too specialized. (I'd stick with ARs for a Logi, but SMGs or laser rifles could also work with proper skilling.) |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.11 20:32:00 -
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Logis are support rolls so running with a laser or mass driver can help your team out if used correctly.
Use either of these two weapons to wear the red dots down from a distance then switch to repair gun and let your killers kill as you keep them all fixed up. |
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