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BASSMEANT
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Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:54:00 -
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there aren't enough hardcore players on the ps3 to keep it running. or it's gonna be a pretty close call.
it's not the game that's gonna fail.
it's the community.
how many years has it been since the other fiasco that shall not be named?
nobody has learned a damn thing.
i dunno maybe how to zerg on randumbs in pub rooms.
but if any clan called itself hardcore and spent all day zerging nonteam noobs, which is pretty much most of em, then you can't really call em a hardcore clan, can ya?
catch 22.
the game won't fail the gamers
the gamers will fail the game
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.09 14:07:00 -
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"this game is so much more deeper then that"
no, no it's not. it's actually REALLY easy.
and yet, the majority of the community, "hardcore" clans included, can't play it.
and there aren't nearly enough "hardcore" clans on ps3.
there's a buncha casuals wearing clan tags thinking they are a "hardcore" clan.
but those folks are just fooling themselves.
y'know why i know?
cuz it's in beta and the player count is small. like almost nill.
let's see:
1. it's a fps game. so it's already a small market. or at least a segmented one.
2. it's an "mmo". well no not really, but they sure do like ot advert it that way. and yet, not many mmo'ers here. or on ps3 for that matter.
3. it's a sci fi game. which right there knocks out most REAL hardcore clans because real hardcore clans are mostly adults and adults would rather play combat sims like bf3 then sci fi kids games like halo. kids looooooove sci fi, zombie crap. kids aren't hardcore players. they are "hardcore".
4. it's got a bigger infrastructure then pretty much every other game on the ps3. so now you're taking the casual console gamers and handing em a spreadsheet in order to create a loadout. again... these cats aren't cut out for that. they are cut out for 3 or 4 premade loadouts and the options on those are minimal at best. the majority of the ps3 community is gonna be baffled by the loadout screen. or the vehicle loadout screen.
so we got a small game aimed at a small market with "mmo" features that are still pretty new concepts for the ps3 community. the game has a high learning curve and actually tracks stats that matter, thereby allowing everyone to see just how bad everyone else sucks. teams have always been op in every other game and now we have a game where not only are teams going to do better, it's almost a neccessity. in fact, teams are rewarded for playing as teams, which bites down hard on the casuals. then there's the fact that if you suck, you'll go bankrupt and have to start over. which im sure will happen to about 80% of the players at release. add in microtransactions and some nebulous interaction with EvE and that pertty much ensures a tornado of chaos and incompetence.
it'd be nice if this game does well. but it won't be the game that fails.
it'll be the players. and think about it. there really aren't that many of the ACTUAL community here. just the "beta" testers. once you open the game up to the world, things won't be getting better overnight. in fact, you can prolly expect much, much worse.
Peace
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BASSMEANT
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Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:17:00 -
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"the entire ps3 community is filled with 10 year olds with the attention span of an ADHD stricken gold fish,"
thank you for admitting it.
yeah that pretty much sums it up.
self aggrandizing?
you sir, are high.
it's facts:
i've been doing this since long before most of you were alive.
and the devs, too.
i've watched the same stupid monkeys jump from ps... to ps2... to ps3.
i've watched as EVERY single game released on the market gets watered down so the gold fish you mentioned can play.
and they still can't play it. and mag was the final example of exactly what i had been saying all along. and then it went ahead and proved my point: the ps3 community, by and large, sucks at gaming. just stupid, slow, unoriginal thinking. no discipline. can't handle an objective. too many phaggy snipers who think they are helping.
literally decades of the same garbage gameplay over and over.
oh wait, no it wasn't the same...
it got worse. which is why all the games on the market suck. cuz they are kids games now. cuz that's all this community can handle.
most of the adults on ps3 ARE grumpy.
you try carrying dozens of incompetent toddlers to the win line, game after game and it gets tedious.
i do have faith in the community:
i have faith they will do everything they can to make 514 into cod and then there will be no point in it.
they've done it to every other game. why would it be different here?
and sci-fi is for kids. if 514 had skipped the sci and gone for modern combat with the exact same infractructure...
this server would be PACKED.
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BASSMEANT
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Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.11 00:36:00 -
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"It is hyperbole to say that EVERY single game released on console gets watered down."
actually no. it's true. there isn't a hard game out there. and no way a hardcore clan game. not on console.
i'm just waiting to see how bad they dumb down GTA V and then i'll know for sure.
the last good console game was BF2:MC. THAT was a good game.
nothing since has come close. and ya ask why i'm playing 514?
well... it's basically a lack of options. if there were more choices, believe me... i'd take em.
this was the one game that had or i'll even say HAS a shot.
but it's gonna require a crap ton of people to learn how to work as a team and to drop the casual "i spent my money so im gonna play however i want, even if it's halfassed and useless." that' stuff has got to go if this game wants longevity.
look at it from a poor noobs point of view:
they are gonna face it on 2 fronts... one when they play against real fake pub stack clans...
and then again when they just play a normal game and 90% of their team just flat out sucks codboi style.
this game is gonna reqiure more from console gamers then they are used to. that shoulda been obvious a mile off.
but i don't think it's sunk in yet.
and as always:
if it's this bad now... in high sec, with only a tiny fraction of the console community here...
when null opens up... whoa nellie there is gonna be some screaming on the forums.
and for anyone who really wants to try a hardcore game:
go log on to Entropia. play it for an hour or 2.
THAT is a hardcore game. the stat system from that game IS the same as here. except more in depth.
and they actually make you grind for stuff. "grinding" here is maybe a couple weeks at best.
any player who is good at Entropia is good at gaming. period.
Peace
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