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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:18:00 -
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I'm with almighty on this and hope he kicks up more dust about this subject. Before with the weekly cap at least you could schedule out when you can catch up to the no lifers - now there's no chance of it.
I doubt CCP put even 2 moments of thinking into this. |
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:43:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies.
Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. |
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:50:00 -
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Skag Barron wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. Two different games link, based in the same universe, same story line, same technology, fighting the same wars on the same planets, weapons and armor supplyied from one game to the other. yes two completely different games 
Glad you understand the difference between a space MMO and an FPS MMO. Would of been troubling if you hadn't. |
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:51:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. You're an idiot. Dust and EVE are the same damn game as of Thursday. They just get played in different ways.
And wow. You guys are really crapping out some arrogance today. Try to keep your idioicy down and stop comparing two different genres of games. |
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:02:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. You're an idiot. Dust and EVE are the same damn game as of Thursday. They just get played in different ways. And wow. You guys are really crapping out some arrogance today. Try to keep your idioicy down and stop comparing two different genres of games. You're an obvious Troll at best, but you could at least put some effort into it and vary it so it looks like an actual opinion and discussion rather than you just trying to look like an ignorant little 15 year old console player. Different Genres yes, different games? no. Icy Tiger: SP and new guns/suits will not make people log in to play. That's the player generated content.
Says the troll to the troll. Okay - let's break this down since I can tell from your other threads it takes months of marinating before you can comprehend anything.
EVE - Space MMO - SP gathered through time - PVP is non essential.
DUST - Sci Fi FPS MMO - SP Gathered through time but mostly through battles - PvP is almost essential.
In one SP is not all important - you can avoid anything you don't like. In the other - SP will determine your effectiveness and credibility to your class.
In one SP won't dictate the fun your having - you can find other means to do whatever you like. In the other without the proper SP you'll find yourself throwing your control in frustration as you get gunned down in seconds.
I could go on - but I'd just be feeding you obvious things that any idiot should of put together on there own. Now please - see your comments for what they are ... which is crap.
And getting away from that - since it was really just Cerebral trying to pick a troll fight - new SP system is total ****. |
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:04:00 -
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D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. erm... I thought the whole point was to make it ONE game... 
lol that idea is true - they're trying to integrate two totally different games to coincide and work together.
But this does not make them 'one' and is a very flawed approach to this game. |
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:06:00 -
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Skag Barron wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Skag Barron wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. Two different games link, based in the same universe, same story line, same technology, fighting the same wars on the same planets, weapons and armor supplyied from one game to the other. yes two completely different games Glad you understand the difference between a space MMO and an FPS MMO. Would of been troubling if you hadn't. Well the case being you would rather focus on the differences, and actually make them two completely different games, in which case the whole point of Dust 514 would be lost. They are two sides of the one game and getting all emotional and upset and trying to bully your bully your opinion across really is a waste of enegry. and would it really be troubling if I didn't understand the difference, I interested to know just how troubling this would be?
Oh - maybe I'm coming off wrong. I'm upset over the new SP system that CCP supposedly had planning for months...
People trying to say Eve doesn't get SP per accomplishment and we're using a 'crutch' in dust was the statement I went all over and said BS too.
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:17:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:You realise that PVP is already NOT the only thing to do in Dust? If you run a corp or get involved with the Metagame it's much more interesting than the PVP. There's also the aspects they plan to add, battle commander, production etc will all be without you taking part in direct PVP. You're not looking at the big picutre and CCP has to lay down the foundations for things to work in the future. If you don't like it, find something else to play?...
Lmao - this guy only focuses on what he wants - doesn't he? This explains all the comments I read about you - sure is funny to see it first hand. And also stop acting like you can read CCP's mind - they have released so little info on how the non pvp aspect of this game works that any notion you put forth to counter me is nothing be he said she said crap. The discussion is on the SP - not your idea of Eve vs DUST. Comparing two different genres no matter how closely tied in the way you are doing it is a very **** poor idea.
Anyways - Cerebral hasn't said anything to add to this discussion - the SP system is crap - it's too valued to DUST players compared to Eve for CCP to just push it aside and use an over-simplicated system like this.
The roll back idea that pushes un-earned SP for the day to the next until it reaches a weekly reset is brilliant.
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:25:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:It's also worth noting that there's going to be racial versions of all the guns and suits that will feel unique and they will need training if you want to use them.
Corp battles maybe all proto in theory but believe me, proto gear will not win the match.
Superior tactics, planning and money will win. Not much point having proto suits if theres nothing on the market or you can't buy them.
As for what i know, i know more about what's planned for this game than most do, ask Shad to confirm that for you.
Oh? Are you allowed to share any of that information? If not - must be nice to be allowed to share that you know more then others. Really helps us build respect for CCP and who they chose to disclose information too.
post above: Again - stop comparing EvE with Dust - dust won't have traveling mining tanks to gather minerals... I think? Lmao. Now you have me so curious on CCP's ideas that my imagination is taking off in several directions. |
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:28:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:I got banned from the forum the last time i posted something from a conversation with a CCP employee because Shad reported me for it, hence he can confirm it.
*Picks up his pitchfork* he did what? QQ
Come on shad - a little "Oh I didn't see that." wouldn't of hurt. :( |
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:34:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:It's also worth noting that there's going to be racial versions of all the guns and suits that will feel unique and they will need training if you want to use them.
Corp battles maybe all proto in theory but believe me, proto gear will not win the match.
Superior tactics, planning and money will win. Not much point having proto suits if theres nothing on the market or you can't buy them.
As for what i know, i know more about what's planned for this game than most do, ask Shad to confirm that for you. Oh? Are you allowed to share any of that information? If not - must be nice to be allowed to share that you know more then others. Really helps us build respect for CCP and who they chose to disclose information too. post above: Again - stop comparing EvE with Dust - dust won't have traveling mining tanks to gather minerals... I think? Lmao. Now you have me so curious on CCP's ideas that my imagination is taking off in several directions. And you notice that CCP have been mostly completely tight lipped right? Cerebral has access to the CSMs, who talk to CCP quite often. So maybe they won't have mining vehicles and maybe they will. If they don't at first then at some point they might just add them. I'm hoping still hoping to get to see Vo' shun at some point. If they add it.....
I'd be ecstatic to find out the non-PvP aspect of this game will be as sound as Cerebral makes it seem. This convo got me excited for the future >: D I'd be more then happy to be called a re-tarded effin' troll in this thread if it rocks.
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:40:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:I'm here just for the metagame personally and i've had a lot of fun playing it to be quite honest. I've made great friends and what i hope are going to be great enemies.
I couldn't agree more - which is why this SP discussion needs to be taken seriously to make sure the foundation of the game is one where anyone can pick up and enjoy. Not feel like you have to quit your job to keep up with no lifers to not get gunned down in the blink of an eye.
I think the meta will attract people - but the functionality of the PvP and how it interacts with every aspect of the game will keep them staying for more. |
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:49:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:You realise that PVP is already NOT the only thing to do in Dust? If you run a corp or get involved with the Metagame it's much more interesting than the PVP. There's also the aspects they plan to add, battle commander, production etc will all be without you taking part in direct PVP. You're not looking at the big picutre and CCP has to lay down the foundations for things to work in the future. If you don't like it, find something else to play?... Every single new player who downloads this game will be first focusing on PvP (and most players who decide to stick with the game will continue to only focus on PvP). If the PvP does not impress, they will immediately quit playing and delete the game off their hard drive before they ever get a chance to try out other features of this game. They payed nothing for the game and have no incentive to continue playing if the game doesn't give a good first impression. The PvP has to be good. It has to feel familiar to people transitioning from other games and has to be newbie friendly. This strict SP cap is not newb friendly. Not totally true, a lot of people play EVE just because they are mouth breathing pubbies who think mining is fun and that's never been suggested as a play point for EVE. Nobody is downloading this game to mine space rocks.
I would if I could manufacture said rocks into weapons, tanks, suits and sell them on a market. Rather then being a front line killer - I could be the reason our gear is top notch. And I'll also point to Minecrafts success lol |
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