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Solo240
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:49:00 -
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Swarm launchers should be able to lock on heavy dropsuit
would take care of the problem of having too many heavy in one game |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
208
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Posted - 2013.01.08 20:19:00 -
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No ... daft idea.
There were ment to be some dumbfire variants brought back in one of the recent builds but they never materialised ... we could still see them at some point, but they'll have to be carefull not to be op against infantry. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:56:00 -
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No, nuff said. |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:12:00 -
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No. Definitely no. Never gonna or should happen. It's hard enough.being a heavy with only 2 weapons and being obese and everyone out to get ya. If anything heavy suit a need more options. |
Solo240
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:31:00 -
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It feel like none of you have been in a game where the ennemy team have 8-9 HMG |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:48:00 -
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Magpie Raven wrote:No. Definitely no. Never gonna or should happen. It's hard enough.being a heavy with only 2 weapons and being obese and everyone out to get ya. If anything heavy suit a need more options.
Yusyusyusyusyusyusyusyus
Thank you Magpie.
As for the topic of this thread, locking onto a Heavy with a swarm seems like it wouldn't make any difference. It's very easy to take down heavies now as is. Just get distance on them and you'll be fine. Hard charging a heavy is stupid. (not implying that you've done this, just saying) |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:49:00 -
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No. Never ever.
The fatties have a hard enough time as it is.
Some have mentioned that the exit time for heavies to get out of LAVs should be increased to reduce the LAV/HMG spam, thats the only good idea I've seen for nerfing the heavis which in no other way should be done IMO. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:21:00 -
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Solo240 wrote:It feel like none of you have been in a game where the ennemy team have 8-9 HMG
What are ya new? Most around these parts have dealt with much worse thing than a pack of fatties. Learn to counter. Running head long into a group of heavies ain't a counter btw. |
Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
77
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:23:00 -
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you can use a flux granade and a mass driver
problem solved |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
140
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:33:00 -
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*looks down at proto swarms and starts laughing*
I think not |
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
435
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:44:00 -
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CookieStein wrote:Solo240 wrote:It feel like none of you have been in a game where the ennemy team have 8-9 HMG What are ya new? Most around these parts have dealt with much worse thing than a pack of fatties. Learn to counter. Running head long into a group of heavies ain't a counter btw.
This person has obviously never ran into Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane!
Seriously, if you can't kill them without a lock-on swarm launcher shame on you. Secondly, heavies move like the dickens so how could they even avoid them? Thirdly, how is that even a balanced approach?
I smell troll. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.01.09 01:01:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:CookieStein wrote:Solo240 wrote:It feel like none of you have been in a game where the ennemy team have 8-9 HMG What are ya new? Most around these parts have dealt with much worse thing than a pack of fatties. Learn to counter. Running head long into a group of heavies ain't a counter btw. This person has obviously never ran into Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane! Seriously, if you can't kill them without a lock-on swarm launcher shame on you. Secondly, heavies move like the dickens so how could they even avoid them? Thirdly, how is that even a balanced approach? I smell troll.
He who smelt it dealt it. |
Solo240
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.09 02:02:00 -
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or u guys dont have a lot of sp in HMG yeah they are slow but when they have sharpshooter lvl5 with hmg proficiency u can kill really far away
also would give some use to my stupid proto swarm launcher |
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2013.01.09 02:14:00 -
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Solo240 wrote:or u guys dont have a lot of sp in HMG yeah they are slow but when they have sharpshooter lvl5 with hmg proficiency u can kill really far away
also would give some use to my stupid proto swarm launcher
It's a terrible idea, period |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United
Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.01.09 02:43:00 -
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Solo240 wrote:or u guys dont have a lot of sp in HMG yeah they are slow but when they have sharpshooter lvl5 with hmg proficiency u can kill really far away
also would give some use to my stupid proto swarm launcher
Try ambushing them instead. Sounds like you're doing a full bore charge across an open field at them. Sorry, but this isn't like the civil war or anything like that. Hint: automatic weapon aka motor operated gatling gun means get some cover and use this thing called tactics. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.09 10:44:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Solo240 wrote:or u guys dont have a lot of sp in HMG yeah they are slow but when they have sharpshooter lvl5 with hmg proficiency u can kill really far away
also would give some use to my stupid proto swarm launcher Try ambushing them instead. Sounds like you're doing a full bore charge across an open field at them. Sorry, but this isn't like the civil war or anything like that. Hint: automatic weapon aka motor operated gatling gun means get some cover and use this thing called tactics.
Tactics are OP. Keep charging my HMG from an open field. I need the WP |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:05:00 -
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Solo240 wrote:or u guys dont have a lot of sp in HMG yeah they are slow but when they have sharpshooter lvl5 with hmg proficiency u can kill really far away
also would give some use to my stupid proto swarm launcher Did you help nerf DS and/or Missile Turrets?
If no, than defend Supply Depot so you change Fits. Why are you walking around with a Swarm?
If yes well, who took away your pretty, pretty targets?
Also, No. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:25:00 -
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/signed
Brilliant Idea, +1. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
220
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Posted - 2013.01.09 11:38:00 -
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One of the worst ideas ever given on these forums. How about we make all bullets heat seeking because in the future you'd be able to have real magic bullets! Ridiculous. Pure ridiculous. |
Kubott Sendai
Doomheim
1
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:03:00 -
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launchers are anti-vehicle weapons.
but, am guessing you already know that... |
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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2013.01.09 12:08:00 -
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So your mad because someone that put heaps of sp into HMG's killed you with a HMG?
Please gtfo. |
Grav Reviera
Dragon Black Ops
5
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Posted - 2013.01.09 14:12:00 -
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are you serious? heavy armor isnt even heavy armor, its not even worth being called cloth, its tissue paper dude, dont let the bulky looks fool you, its just a skiny guy with a mass of cottonballs covered by wet fancy toilet tissue. hell rocks coult penitrate heavy armor. hell afking feather could cill you in that armor. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
176
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:19:00 -
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This is a kill button.
-1 |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:34:00 -
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Fellow Dusters I just want to prepare you for this...........
This thread is just a shadow of the things to come once this game goes into open beta. Every noob/newb with an idea will come on here and voice how they should get an insta kill gun to use. I predict complaints about MDs not 1 shotting ppl, most sniper chest shots not 1 shotting ppl, standard AV nades not easily taking out tanks, no auto armor regen (must use a module), losing fits you spent ISK on when you die, HS should be insta kills with any weapons, Orbitals are too hard to get,.......and many many more. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
435
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:55:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Fellow Dusters I just want to prepare you for this...........
This thread is just a shadow of the things to come once this game goes into open beta. Every noob/newb with an idea will come on here and voice how they should get an insta kill gun to use. I predict complaints about MDs not 1 shotting ppl, most sniper chest shots not 1 shotting ppl, standard AV nades not easily taking out tanks, no auto armor regen (must use a module), losing fits you spent ISK on when you die, HS should be insta kills with any weapons, Orbitals are too hard to get,.......and many many more.
Your right.
Everytime we get a batch of noobs, the forums repeat themselves. Usually starting with nerf forges, AR are OP, lasers are OP, everything is too complicated.
I say we absolutely leave them alone. Just keep on doing what we do, bring up valid current issues, not stone-age complaints. Just ignore all the noob posts following the open beta. |
Grav Reviera
Dragon Black Ops
5
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:08:00 -
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bah I like the idea of magic heat seeking bullets, sounds more useful then launching rockets at a turtle with a gun.
+10 forthe magic bullets!!! XD
anyways like I said from the start, heavies arent worth the rockets. you're better off just jumping on a guy with heavy armor.
idea scrapped and burned, NEXT LUDACTIST IDEA PLEASE! |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1003
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:08:00 -
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I swear people just keep forgetting about the Plasma Cannon that's coming soon, no matter how many times I remind them... |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.01.09 16:13:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I swear people just keep forgetting about the Plasma Cannon that's coming soon, no matter how many times I remind them...
If this doesnt insta kill everything then it will be useless......... |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.09 18:49:00 -
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This could actually work. In theory.
What if Swarm Launchers could lock onto infantry targets that have extremely large signature profiles?
(Probably not a common enough situation to be of much use, though.) |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
435
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:45:00 -
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You can dumbfire them! Why don't you guys get that! |
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semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.01.09 20:31:00 -
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I thought they got rid of dumb fire? |
Bainlear Gorrilian
Infinite Ohmage
13
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:25:00 -
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This is why we need a dislike button. Heavies do not have the power, defense or speed of tanks. They should not be treated like tanks. They should be treated as toddling turrets. Not even the kind or turret that are lare blaster installations. I am talking about the turrets on the back of LAVs. Imagine that significant power increase with a shield to protect the user. Wrap that plated defense around the wielder and allow him to move with the gun and you have The Heavies.
Heavies aren't installations or tanks. "Toddling turret" just doesn't have the same ring to it as "Walking tank".
P.S. I think installations should be called cannon huts. |
Solo240
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:05:00 -
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Play against me ill show u the n00b =]
Tell me this...whos really scared of SL? Who got lvl5 SL?
point was to get some use of the SL since they removed dumbfire and with the time it take to lock on thing with missiles hitting rock instead of avoiding it like supposed, tell me ull be really afraid of that kind of weapon?
Put some thoughts into this, as I did with my corpmates, instead of "OH NO MY GODLY HEAVY WILL BE TAKEN DOWN!!"
Damn, here its to exchange ideas, there's plenty of other forums to troll and bash people, reaction like Tectonious Falcon had is friggin 13yrs-old behavior
EDIT; theres also ways to limit SL lock range on heavy, use ur imagination and get out of 21st century weapon mechanics, its the future god damnit |
Templar1
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:33:00 -
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Solo240 wrote:It feel like none of you have been in a game where the ennemy team have 8-9 HMG
lol i have they are by far the stupidest team to ever face unless they all stand in a circle backs together other than that 8 - 9 hmg iin one team is one of the easyest teams to beat 2 easy ways
1 spawn assault with speed run rings around them
2 get a lav and run the slow fat ass mofos over
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
435
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Posted - 2013.01.10 04:20:00 -
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Solo240 wrote:Play against me ill show u the n00b =]
Tell me this...whos really scared of SL? Who got lvl5 SL?
point was to get some use of the SL since they removed dumbfire and with the time it take to lock on thing with missiles hitting rock instead of avoiding it like supposed, tell me ull be really afraid of that kind of weapon?
Put some thoughts into this, as I did with my corpmates, instead of "OH NO MY GODLY HEAVY WILL BE TAKEN DOWN!!"
Damn, here its to exchange ideas, there's plenty of other forums to troll and bash people, reaction like Tectonious Falcon had is friggin 13yrs-old behavior
EDIT; theres also ways to limit SL lock range on heavy, use ur imagination and get out of 21st century weapon mechanics, its the future god damnit
You can dumbfire non militia! And yes it is the future, our suits are technically advanced to use their size to avoid lock on, just as some materials are harder to lock on to due to properties of the substance. That enough future for you? I'm sorry your suggestion is unpopular, but that's no reason to not face the facts. No hate.
A militia LAV has more HP than most heavies, but a swarm destroys them in one launch...so a heavy is like insta-killed by one launch. |
Coyskurk
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
39
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Posted - 2013.01.10 04:38:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:No ... daft idea.
There were ment to be some dumbfire variants brought back in one of the recent builds but they never materialised ... we could still see them at some point, but they'll have to be carefull not to be op against infantry.
Gallente Plasma Cannon |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
51
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Posted - 2013.01.10 04:43:00 -
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I love swarms and would like to have this feature, but even I must admit it would be bad for the game. Like people have said it is easy enough to use superior mobility to outgun a heavy. Use better tactics and youll be ok. So no to locking on heavies. |
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