DUST Search - CCP Lifting NDA before open beta would benefit you.

Crm234 wrote:

FPS players usually know what im talking about , since there is a 128 likes . Its the fanboy disease usually in this forum as you show that glorify Eve mechanics as great for everything even another genre. Progress after 4 months is very minor compared to FPS games out right now. Of course its huge improvement when you only compare it to Dust and Eve. We have seen people with engine detailed problems get the fanboy treatment CCP cant do no wrong.

In its own forum is ridiculous to hide pics and vids, and even polls. If i could record a video it would solve so many technical issues and not allow Fanboys to say its swamp gas or the light reflecting off Venus so any problem gets locked down quick and swept under the rug . Since august they have basically ruin their controls and put them back. made the graphics a little smoother, and changed how the game players tracks for the worse to make smoother matches. Ghosting still happens with vehicles and rooms are empty but if you turn a inch there are 3 heavy's in the room.

As another FPS player said it leaves him scratching his head, what are they actually working on and have such large problems with such little in it

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charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2013.01.08 15:20:00 - [1] - Quote CCP I do completely understand the NDA until now but with only about 2 weeks to public beta I think it would be beneficial to the game for it to be lifted perhaps on the 10th when migration is complete. I think we as Dust mercs will be your best advertising for the game and with the NDA in place it makes it very hard for us to help you promote the game as well as recruit players for our corps. More players = more customers = more revenue. If others disagree fine but let's discuss the pros and cons of lifting the NDA before open beta here and if a DEV could chime in on CCP'S position or plan that would be helpful as well.
Darren Sokarad Metropolis Industrials 1	Posted - 2013.01.08 15:26:00 - [2] - Quote I think the whole point of the NDA is so people don't get the wrong idea about the game. If you start posting pictures or talking about some BFG type weapon, which they ultimately pull before the open beta, then that could have a negative effect. (or a positive of course) Leave it to CCP's marketing divison to decide what to push, etc. then just jump up and wave the flags they provide. :)
Crm234 Wraith Shadow Guards 166	Posted - 2013.01.08 15:33:00 - [3] - Quote Im just waiting for the NDA to be lifted so every flaw in the FPS mechanics can finally be exposed and be shown over and over on youtube with the Benny hill theme song in the background, so this beta can finally get fixed because the forums didnt help after being here since August.
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2013.01.08 15:35:00 - [4] - Quote Crm234 wrote: Im just waiting for the NDA to be lifted so every flaw in the FPS mechanics can finally be exposed and be shown over and over on youtube with the Benny hill theme song in the background, so this beta can finally get fixed because the forums didnt help after being here since August. Wow its posts like this why the NDA is there. Since you think the game is so terrible go away.
Crm234 Wraith Shadow Guards 166	Posted - 2013.01.08 15:41:00 - [5] - Quote charlesnette dalari wrote: Crm234 wrote: Im just waiting for the NDA to be lifted so every flaw in the FPS mechanics can finally be exposed and be shown over and over on youtube with the Benny hill theme song in the background, so this beta can finally get fixed because the forums didnt help after being here since August. Wow its posts like this why the NDA is there. Since you think the game is so terrible go away. I know why the NDA was there but Dust forums should of allowed us the ability to post vids and pictures of things that were wrong and they didnt. They had the ability to fix the problems and they didnt to main core gameplay like spawning,player tracking, grenade arcs, hit detection, lag on low player counts, and map design. They really put people in a corner that really shouldn't of needed to happen. i personally do not make videos or have a stock pile of videos but as a example Bf3 beta watch how many vids about look i fell through the floor or look i spawned and die by a sniper hammering the fact because EA didnt listen. Or the best one see 128 players liars that got people banned from EA servers
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2013.01.08 17:36:00 - [6] - Quote Crm234 wrote: charlesnette dalari wrote: Crm234 wrote: Im just waiting for the NDA to be lifted so every flaw in the FPS mechanics can finally be exposed and be shown over and over on youtube with the Benny hill theme song in the background, so this beta can finally get fixed because the forums didnt help after being here since August. Wow its posts like this why the NDA is there. Since you think the game is so terrible go away. I know why the NDA was there but Dust forums should of allowed us the ability to post vids and pictures of things that were wrong and they didnt. They had the ability to fix the problems and they didnt to main core gameplay like spawning,player tracking, grenade arcs, hit detection, lag on low player counts, and map design. They really put people in a corner that really shouldn't of needed to happen. i personally do not make videos or have a stock pile of videos but as a example Bf3 beta watch how many vids about look i fell through the floor or look i spawned and die by a sniper hammering the fact because EA didnt listen. Or the best one see 128 players liars that got people banned from EA servers Judging by the 2 posts you have made in this thread and looking through your post history (I quit reading further than about 20 previous posts since it was a whine fest) you have been very good at pointing out what YOU consider to be catastrophic issues with very little constructive feedback on how to correct it. You obviously also don't seem to have been in the beta very long if you believe CCP has not made improvements or listened to the testing community. There have been MANY improvements to all of the game mechanics you are pointing out. I have been in the beta since shortly after it began and quite frankly a lot of changes were made to appease the whiners that didn't need changing. Are there still things that need tweaked? Of course. Do I think CCP will fix them? Yes. CCP limited the vids and pics simply because they didn't want the general public to base their opinion of an unfinished game on the whining of beta testers that complain rather than post constructive suggestions. Try describing the issues you see in words in a constructive way instead of butt hurt posts that you can't post vids and maybe if any of your suggestions are useful they will be implemented otherwise don't whine or you are not part of the solution but rather part of the problem and again the exact reason for the NDA. If you are playing the game you must like it for some reason so try helping CCP make it better and try putting forth a positive message so that the game is successful enough for CCP to fix things. Honestly in my opinion there isn't a lot of things that are broken. Many of the minor issues may be fixed with a larger player base as well as more content that will undoubtedly help in the area of balance. But if people do what you so far have done ie whine unconstrained then we won't get a larger player base and we will never see come to fruition the full vision of Dust514.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.08 17:44:00 - [7] - Quote charlesnette dalari wrote: Crm234 wrote: Im just waiting for the NDA to be lifted so every flaw in the FPS mechanics can finally be exposed and be shown over and over on youtube with the Benny hill theme song in the background, so this beta can finally get fixed because the forums didnt help after being here since August. Wow its posts like this why the NDA is there. Since you think the game is so terrible go away. dont be such a fanboi theres some really stupid bugs that cause us to QQ, hit detection being one of them STILL vs scout... if they open beta with this reload bug, and it happens like 5 times a match, they're stupid
Crm234 Wraith Shadow Guards 166	Posted - 2013.01.08 17:58:00 - [8] - Quote FPS players usually know what im talking about , since there is a 128 likes . Its the fanboy disease usually in this forum as you show that glorify Eve mechanics as great for everything even another genre. Progress after 4 months is very minor compared to FPS games out right now. Of course its huge improvement when you only compare it to Dust and Eve. We have seen people with engine detailed problems get the fanboy treatment CCP cant do no wrong. In its own forum is ridiculous to hide pics and vids, and even polls. If i could record a video it would solve so many technical issues and not allow Fanboys to say its swamp gas or the light reflecting off Venus so any problem gets locked down quick and swept under the rug . Since august they have basically ruin their controls and put them back. made the graphics a little smoother, and changed how the game players tracks for the worse to make smoother matches. Ghosting still happens with vehicles and rooms are empty but if you turn a inch there are 3 heavy's in the room. As another FPS player said it leaves him scratching his head, what are they actually working on and have such large problems with such little in it
Finn Kempers BetaMax. 222	Posted - 2013.01.08 18:26:00 - [9] - Quote Crm234 wrote: FPS players usually know what im talking about , since there is a 128 likes . Its the fanboy disease usually in this forum as you show that glorify Eve mechanics as great for everything even another genre. Progress after 4 months is very minor compared to FPS games out right now. Of course its huge improvement when you only compare it to Dust and Eve. We have seen people with engine detailed problems get the fanboy treatment CCP cant do no wrong. In its own forum is ridiculous to hide pics and vids, and even polls. If i could record a video it would solve so many technical issues and not allow Fanboys to say its swamp gas or the light reflecting off Venus so any problem gets locked down quick and swept under the rug . Since august they have basically ruin their controls and put them back. made the graphics a little smoother, and changed how the game players tracks for the worse to make smoother matches. Ghosting still happens with vehicles and rooms are empty but if you turn a inch there are 3 heavy's in the room. As another FPS player said it leaves him scratching his head, what are they actually working on and have such large problems with such little in it FPS players, unless they come from the Doom-Quake era, are generally regarded as kittens. Mostly because those games require 500x more skill. Also if you have a problem, petition it. Its not a secret. And the Technical discussion and the Feedback sections, DEDICATED TO IT. Also you have no idea how much they have changed, beginning last year it was VERY different. You probably dont remember when swarms were OP and lamp posts killed all. You say slow progress, but most of the stuff they have been fixing is server side. Be aware no other game in history has done this kind of merge. If you really think its easy to fix stuff, try doing anything computer related for once. One line of seemingly meaningless or unrelated code can completely botch up everything, or if one is out of place the rest collapse. Its not easy maintaining this kinda stuff. Also before you cry FANBOI etc. etc., I am partially. So what? I'm allowed to be. This game has high potential, and is still far more balanced than FPS' like CoD or the newer BF games. Last comment, they arent trying to hide problems from us. You are allowed to mail them pics of problems. Be aware this game has been in development for god knows how many years XD By your logic, I have more likes than you, so I win. But its flawed logic so I wont condone it.
Crm234 Wraith Shadow Guards 166	Posted - 2013.01.08 18:59:00 - [10] - Quote The like comment was based off , you write non sense because you didn't like it. You clearly are a eve player from your post and we have the great divide problem happening here. It pointless for me to use fps games when you reference doom plus quake. Like it would be for you to throw rpg games at me. Good luck and can hope praise but don't get mad when warned RPG player but doesnt make the point any less. Just because its a grand daddy doesnt make it meaningful to modern times. Dungeons and dragons is the grand daddy of MMORPG`s. Bars get moved for video game development and Dust is to retro as a FPS for modern times. This is coming from someone that has played doom , quake, tribes,1943, golden eye, and galactic as a retro. Sometimes i feel this beta thinks its RPG elements are so good that it can weather bad FPS elements. Model T`s are great but im pretty sure , they wouldn't pass modern emissions and safety laws.

Finn Kempers BetaMax. 222	Posted - 2013.01.08 19:12:00 - [11] - Quote Crm234 wrote: The like comment was based off , you write non sense because you didn't like it. You clearly are a eve player from your post and we have the great divide problem happening here. It pointless for me to use fps games when you reference doom plus quake. Like it would be for you to throw rpg games at me. Good luck and can hope praise but don't get mad when warned Nope don't play EVE, I liked X2 though which is similar. Also those games are the granddaddy of FPS so can't ignore them ;) Also if I'm failing to answer your problems, it's because your poor English made it incredibly difficult to make out what you were saying. Also give me straight evidence of a game improving faster than Dust in 4 months. Any game will have been for years in development, except for CoD nowadays as they barely add anything.


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