DUST Search - Should there be stacking penalties on more modules?

Gunner Visari wrote:

Th3rdSun wrote:

So I was looking at some of the modules,and it seems that the shield extenders,shield regulators,damage mods,and all of the biotics are the only mods that have stacking penalties(quite a bit actually).Would it actually help the "balance" of the game/beta if pretty much all modules had a stacking penalty?

For instance,armor reps don't have a stacking penalty,so I guess if you wanted to,you could run two complex armor reps on your low slot and rep at 10 hp/s.Is this example a possible imbalance?

Honestly,I don't know so I'm throwing it out there to get you guys' feedback.Is this one of those so called "balance" issues that CCP is totally overlooking?

Well given the fact that if some were to stack 2 complex mods it would take a full 60s to obtain 60 armor points which would add a defense of 2 bullets at the most it really isnt that big a deal.

Currently the shield extenders dont have a stacking penalty that i am aware of, ill need to check the description to see if they are supposed to have one but they certainly dont have one that works anyway. Also the dmg mods not only dont have a stacking penalty they actually have a stacking bonus when it is the same type but it is very small so it only becomes noticeable in terms of numerical value when you stack 2 complex mods and get a bonus of 21% instead of 20% with no bonus/penalty and less if there was a working penalty.

Ironically the armor plate modules 3-5% movement penalty does indeed stack and works properly.


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Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:40:00 - [1] - Quote So I was looking at some of the modules,and it seems that the shield extenders,shield regulators,damage mods,and all of the biotics are the only mods that have stacking penalties(quite a bit actually).Would it actually help the "balance" of the game/beta if pretty much all modules had a stacking penalty? For instance,armor reps don't have a stacking penalty,so I guess if you wanted to,you could run two complex armor reps on your low slot and rep at 10 hp/s.Is this example a possible imbalance? Honestly,I don't know so I'm throwing it out there to get you guys' feedback.Is this one of those so called "balance" issues that CCP is totally overlooking?
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:55:00 - [2] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: The cardiac regulator biotic has no stacking penalty, neither does the shield extender, but the shield recharger does. The weapon mods are suppose to have a penalty, but the damage modifer shown in fitting screen shows it working without the penalty. My fault,extenders don't have them.I knew that too,but posted it anyway.Thought I say that the cardiac regs do have them though,but I guess I'm mistaken.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.30 19:12:00 - [3] - Quote What is there were penalties on all mods,and more improved mods that had higher bonuses that cost more way more SP and ISK?
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.30 20:03:00 - [4] - Quote Gunner Visari wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: So I was looking at some of the modules,and it seems that the shield extenders,shield regulators,damage mods,and all of the biotics are the only mods that have stacking penalties(quite a bit actually).Would it actually help the "balance" of the game/beta if pretty much all modules had a stacking penalty? For instance,armor reps don't have a stacking penalty,so I guess if you wanted to,you could run two complex armor reps on your low slot and rep at 10 hp/s.Is this example a possible imbalance? Honestly,I don't know so I'm throwing it out there to get you guys' feedback.Is this one of those so called "balance" issues that CCP is totally overlooking? Well given the fact that if some were to stack 2 complex mods it would take a full 60s to obtain 60 armor points which would add a defense of 2 bullets at the most it really isnt that big a deal. Currently the shield extenders dont have a stacking penalty that i am aware of, ill need to check the description to see if they are supposed to have one but they certainly dont have one that works anyway. Also the dmg mods not only dont have a stacking penalty they actually have a stacking bonus when it is the same type but it is very small so it only becomes noticeable in terms of numerical value when you stack 2 complex mods and get a bonus of 21% instead of 20% with no bonus/penalty and less if there was a working penalty. Ironically the armor plate modules 3-5% movement penalty does indeed stack and works properly. That small bonus on the damage mods are the penalty.You are supposed to double your output by putting on two of the same mods,but it doesn't do that.The second mod is penalized giving you less than you would otherwise get.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.12.31 04:35:00 - [5] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: Bonus are multiplied, not added. Two 10% bonus are +21%, two 10% reductions are -19%. If the stacking penalty on weapon mods worked it would be 10% for first complex, and 8.67...%(ccp uses a lot of decimals in there math) for the second. making it 11.11.0867=1.1954, probably rounded to 1.2 on screen. Stacking penalty makes bigger difference on third module, 3 complex damage is 126.23% with penalty vs 133.1% without penalty. Regardless of that,when you look at the damage mods,it says that there is a stacking penaly,the whole "Note:stacking penalties...",or something to that effect.With that said,I'm assuming that when you put on a second mod,you will less of a percentage than what it is because of the stacking penalty. So it sounds like CCP probably screwed up their stacking penalties if that's what you are getting at,and according to what is stated in game.