It's just one equation, changing the cells that it's pulling numbers from. Each section just required inputting different weapon damages and the rest filled out itself. It took longer waiting for people to get me some of the numbers I was missing than it did to make it.



Yeah, SP is where discrepancies come from now, which is the opposite of where CCP has said they wanted it to be. However, it doesn't matter which gun you use, really, wherever you're at with your SP investment. You've got a 1, maybe 2 (sometimes zero, sometimes 3 for HMG) difference in the number of bullets it takes you to kill your target depending on which tier weapon you use.

Why should people spend a buttload more ISK, CPU, and PG for a target to die in sometimes just a single bullet less, if any difference at all? The bigger differences really only start to appear for going against hp-tanked heavies, and even then, it's just a couple bullets.

Not everyone using a proto suit has 500 or more total hp

You don't understand how to read the spreadsheet, so we'll go through it together.

Look at the top section under the Standard heading (this is with no SP investment in damage increasing skills). You're shooting at some guy who has, let's say 400 hp. You pick up a militia or standard assault rifle (they have the same damage), and you'd kill him in 13 shots. If you had an advanced gun instead, you'd have killed him in... 13 shots. BUT if you had proto, you'd have killed him in a whole 12 shots.

Now, if you had maxed your SP, you'd have killed him in 11 shots with a militia or standard AR, but only 10 shots with advanced or proto.

If you had maxed SP and 2 damage mods, you'd have killed him in 9 shots if you were using militia, standard or advanced AR. Only 8 shots if you had proto.

You're only saving 1 bullet (if any) in those situations. Why would you need to use a higher gun? There's need to upgrade your SP investment and maybe stack damage mods, but there's absolutely no real reason to fit a higher level gun if it's only going to save you a single bullet vs your target. You're sacrificing a lot of ISK, CPU, and PG to kill someone in 1 less bullet.

This has nothing to do with proto vs militia fits. The difference in the tiers of guns isn't "not big" it's almost nonexistent. This is to highlight that it doesn't matter what weapon YOU use, because you kill everyone in almost the same amount of bullets regardless of which tier you have equipped. There is no reason to sacrifice more ISK, CPU and PG to fit the higher level gun because it doesn't kill any faster for you.

Yeah, I said the weapon difference is negligible. The price you pay for more HP is a different issue. I didn't see any complaints about EHP of proto suits and their cost before(aside from the ridiculous heavy vk1)? The spreadsheet shows old AR with max SP and new AR with max SP both kill a 600 EHP suit with the same amount of bullets.

not being an AR user besides the exile. Do the Proto AR's handle differently? As in better accuracy, better range, tighter bullet spread and what not? Then their standard and advanced counterparts.