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Posted - 2012.12.29 23:24:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:Why is it only now people are complaining now about us heavy's? We were given minor tweaks over the last few patches, nothing game changing. But since the AR nerf with the scope replaced with iron sights now people have problems? Well lets look at the pro's and con's of heavy's.
Pro's
*Has more basic armour and health values
*Can use heavy weapons
Con's
*Cant use equipment
*Slow
*Cant jump well
*Reduced modules slots
*Suits and weapons are more expensive
*Skills books are more expensive
*HMG Basic reload time is 8 seconds
*Higher cost for suits
*Larger hit box
*More SP Intensive
The con's really out weigh the pro's there. Heavy's also have to spend more on skills to use suits and weapons.
Fixed your list - it was missing 3. |
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Posted - 2012.12.29 23:33:00 -
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Oh let's add the con that our best suit with best mods is inferior to assault of the same level and a fourth the cost. |
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:04:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Big Popa Smurff wrote:Why is it only now people are complaining now about us heavy's? We were given minor tweaks over the last few patches, nothing game changing. But since the AR nerf with the scope replaced with iron sights now people have problems? Well lets look at the pro's and con's of heavy's.
Pro's
*Has more basic armour and health values
*Can use heavy weapons
EDIT: are the only class that can AV and ant-infantry.
Con's
*Cant use equipment
*Slow
*Cant jump well
*Reduced modules slots
*Suits and weapons are more expensive
*Skills books are more expensive
*HMG Basic reload time is 8 seconds
The pro's really out weigh the con's there. Heavy's also have to spend more on skills to use suits and weapons.
So I guess assault players can't carry an SMG and Swarm Launcher? :)
Though personally I'd pick scramble pistols and swarm launchers if I wanted to prove a point. |
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:16:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Big Popa Smurff wrote:Why is it only now people are complaining now about us heavy's? We were given minor tweaks over the last few patches, nothing game changing. But since the AR nerf with the scope replaced with iron sights now people have problems? Well lets look at the pro's and con's of heavy's.
Pro's
*Has more basic armour and health values
*Can use heavy weapons
EDIT: are the only class that can AV and ant-infantry.
Con's
*Cant use equipment
*Slow
*Cant jump well
*Reduced modules slots
*Suits and weapons are more expensive
*Skills books are more expensive
*HMG Basic reload time is 8 seconds
The pro's really out weigh the con's there. Heavy's also have to spend more on skills to use suits and weapons. So I guess assault players can't carry an SMG and Swarm Launcher? :) Though personally I'd pick scramble pistols and swarm launchers if I wanted to prove a point. try to swarm an HAV to death please. (BTW I GOT MY B-SERIES AND COMPLEX SHIELD OMG OP)
Done - next objective please. Though you really should of said use a proto swarm vs proto tank cause that'll be one fight I won't win lol But it IS an AV set up for non-heavies that DOES do considerable damage if the tanker isn't paying attention. I admit forges are better - but they're not the only AV weapon. You continually ignoring the AV capacity of the other weapons is hurting your logic when communicating it to others - you need to hold everything accountable even if it sucks.
And don't ya love being a shield heavy? It's fun even when you're getting torn to pieces - or at least would of been till you look at your wallet lol |
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Posted - 2012.12.30 00:26:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Heavies were just as OP in Codex, it's just that since many things have been balanced out in Chromosome, one of the few things left that needs tweaking is the heavy. So therefore it is now feeling the heat from the community.
Now here is the thing, the lightly speced heavies are ideal for the game right now, they provide support by laying down vast amount of gunfire or AV and can absorb a bit of damage, but they are not near invincible and still need to be close to you to do significant damage. However the highly speced heavies are essentially walking tanks that can basically OHK you with a HMG if within medium range, and damage you about as much as an AR can at above medium ranges. They also need some serious firepower and commitment to take out, which is usually always impractical given that there are other players in the game.
If the maps were huge this wouldn't be too big a deal, but these maps are way too small to give such firepower at the range it has with such a strong character.
The fact here is, heavies that are well speced are the new Codex dropships of Chromosome.
Are you still posting about heavies even after everyone called you out for being dumb? Masochist.
Let me break this down for you so you can comprehend. The community isn't complaining about heavies in general - they're complaining about HMG's. The comments about heavies are almost always directed at there price tag and mod slots. All the negative complaints about heavies are always in the form of QQ and no substance. Anyone who has a hard time bringing down a heavy needs to put down the controller and find another game - obviously FPS isn't for them. Especially when my 6 million in total SP dedicated heavy AR ass gets handed to him by scouts with militia shot guns while I'm running a suit that costs me nearly 300,000ISK.
I just don't get how people can complain. Black colored assault players run around with as much HP and double our speed with weapons who out DPS HMG's who aren't dedicated to there build. Maybe that's what's confusing you people - a lot of HMG users are dedicated ones who do nothing but make there HMG stronger. |
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Posted - 2012.12.30 01:13:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:
This is such a flawed approach...
"Well Specced Heavy's are good".
That's what I got. Unless I'm 10-15 m in front of a Heavy, I can:
A. Take a Duvolle, put a clip in him.
B. Take a Laser, put a clip in him.
C. Take a Mass Driver, put a clip in him.
D. Take a Sniper, put a clip in him.
E. Throw grenades.
F. Run up in a Scout Suit and 2 Shot him with a Shotgun/SMG.
G. Take an LAV and run him over (can be substituted with any vehicle).
This list is highly situational and in my actual experience, moot. I could make a list 10 times longer than that against an AR player. But something written on paper and something experienced are completely different. Too many people make these claims with the assumption that the situation is ideal, which it rarely ever is. Luck plays more of a role than anything in this game. And with heavies having so much health and firepower, luck is in their favor. I know you all really like having your near invincible killing machines, but you have to admit they are OP for the sake of balance and long-term viability for the game. Stop being so selfish. Must seriously be trolling people at this point because this ^^^^^... sounds like a joke to me.
Just ignore him. His biased views corrupt everything he says in regards to heavies. His dad must of been an abusive heavy. |
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