DUST Search - Laser Rifle DIscourse [Logic Bomb Edition]

Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:

Omnipotens Zitro wrote:

Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote:

Omnipotens Zitro wrote:

Lasers are not OP. Not at all, I can kill 2 people with the first half of the clip, then kill 4 more with the rest of the clip because of over heat damage. I can pretty much do that barely letting go of the trigger too. Then I have my trust SMG next to me to kill the close up enemies.

Yeah not OP at all.

Sarcasm

Tbh a good player can do the same with a proto AR with similiar ratio in ammo, so dont see the argument unless you want to elaborate. You cant do this in any scenario in any case, but when people cluster and arent in top notch gear, sure it can work out that way, but thats thier issue and being at range, its also not a common occurance

Where as a proto AR can kill 4 in closer range with exausting a similiar amount of ammo when thinking on a ratio standpoint.

This being said i call BS on the 'first half a clip' part, maybe 1 kill first half, 3 kills second half , because second half is usually the well heated end of it. This is significant because it means there is still time before you spot the prey and actually nab the kill

a proto AR can't kill any decent heavy in one clip. I can't 6 piece anything with a AR, so yeah.

Edited my post a a bit, but i can still reply to this as it doesnt pertain to edit.

Yeah an LR can kill a decent heavy in one clip, if a heavy stays in the open to be hit and at a distance. But that's where specialization and team tactics some into play. Which then draws a question as to how 'decent' they are to be in the open.

In similiar sense, so can a proto AR if a heavy made himself easy prey like that. With an AR you also get a lot of mobility, so that makes up for it, where as an LR user you dont have that mobility


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Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.12.30 03:19:00 - [1] - Quote Lasers are not OP. Not at all, I can kill 2 people with the first half of the clip, then kill 4 more with the rest of the clip because of over heat damage. I can pretty much do that barely letting go of the trigger too. Then I have my trust SMG next to me to kill the close up enemies. Yeah not OP at all. Sarcasm
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.12.30 03:44:00 - [2] - Quote Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Omnipotens Zitro wrote: Lasers are not OP. Not at all, I can kill 2 people with the first half of the clip, then kill 4 more with the rest of the clip because of over heat damage. I can pretty much do that barely letting go of the trigger too. Then I have my trust SMG next to me to kill the close up enemies. Yeah not OP at all. Sarcasm Tbh a good player can do the same with a proto AR with similiar ratio in ammo, so dont see the argument unless you want to elaborate. You cant do this in any scenario in any case, but when people cluster and arent in top notch gear, sure it can work out that way, but thats thier issue and being at range, its also not a common occurance Where as a proto AR can kill 4 in closer range with exausting a similiar amount of ammo when thinking on a ratio standpoint. This being said i call BS on the 'first half a clip' part, maybe 1 kill first half, 3 kills second half , because second half is usually the well heated end of it. This is significant because it means there is still time before you spot the prey and actually nab the kill a proto AR can't kill any decent heavy in one clip. I can't 6 piece anything with a AR, so yeah. I'm sorry you such a scrub that you can't do it. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Man I have 8 pieced with one clip on the Viziam. So stop this stupid BS that it ain't OP. Most of you guys don't see it anyways because many of you guys back out at the sight of an Imperfects squad. The other day we made a whole team quit. 4v8 and they all just backed out, with some notable names of course. It is like with any gun, doesn't mean you can't do it, means that it is impossible. Lasers are easy mode.
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.12.30 03:57:00 - [3] - Quote Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Omnipotens Zitro wrote: Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Omnipotens Zitro wrote: Lasers are not OP. Not at all, I can kill 2 people with the first half of the clip, then kill 4 more with the rest of the clip because of over heat damage. I can pretty much do that barely letting go of the trigger too. Then I have my trust SMG next to me to kill the close up enemies. Yeah not OP at all. Sarcasm Tbh a good player can do the same with a proto AR with similiar ratio in ammo, so dont see the argument unless you want to elaborate. You cant do this in any scenario in any case, but when people cluster and arent in top notch gear, sure it can work out that way, but thats thier issue and being at range, its also not a common occurance Where as a proto AR can kill 4 in closer range with exausting a similiar amount of ammo when thinking on a ratio standpoint. This being said i call BS on the 'first half a clip' part, maybe 1 kill first half, 3 kills second half , because second half is usually the well heated end of it. This is significant because it means there is still time before you spot the prey and actually nab the kill a proto AR can't kill any decent heavy in one clip. I can't 6 piece anything with a AR, so yeah. Edited my post a a bit, but i can still reply to this as it doesnt pertain to edit. Yeah an LR can kill a decent heavy in one clip, if a heavy stays in the open to be hit and at a distance. But that's where specialization and team tactics some into play. Which then draws a question as to how 'decent' they are to be in the open. In similiar sense, so can a proto AR if a heavy made himself easy prey like that. With an AR you also get a lot of mobility, so that makes up for it, where as an LR user you dont have that mobility Just STFU and think before you post! Laser have exactly the same mobility as an AR! Lasers don't make you slower do they? No!!! I run around with the laser, I just stay in optimal range of everybody.
Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.12.30 04:27:00 - [4] - Quote [quote=Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous][quote=Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous] The Imperfects have already have shown that lasers are OP. I can kill anybody with the damn toxin. We have went on the HK server and camped the South part of the map with all lasers. Guess what happen? Not one of us died and we combined to have 60+ kills. Yeah that CQC combat where laser suck, didn't even happen because nobody could reach my un-effective range because the lasers melted them in 2 seconds. The only way a laser dies is if he doesn't see the enemy coming. I can hold one corner of the map all by my self with the laser. Hey anybody can hold the corner of the map and have a great AOE with the laser all by themselves.