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Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 09:03:00 - [1] - Quote Wanna think on a long term? I play EVE for more then 6 years. That's a long term. If you would start playing now, you would never catch up with all mys skills. Would that make you a noob? Maybe yes, if you would compare only to my total SP. But if you plan your skills wisely, you could be a specialized pilot in under 6 months. Trust me, I have alts that were flying T3 ships with specific weapons specializations that could take on almost any "veteran" player and they were "noobs". Same thing would apply to DUST, veterans will be veterans and noobs will be.. veteran-in-training :)
Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 09:18:00 - [2] - Quote Deveshi wrote: Exactly, so why do we need a cap? Cause it's CCP choice. Wouldn't you find boring if all the games would have the same game mechanics and the only difference would be graphics and the back-story?
Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 09:52:00 - [3] - Quote Deveshi wrote: Essentially with the SP cap you are simply making a COD in the making. What is beautiful about both Dust and EVE is that SP are limited and precious and as a result pretty much every character in EVE is different with stengths and weaknesses in different areas. With an SP cap to allow new players to catch up with vets you are basically putting everyone on a level playing ground and the only difference between characters will be if people are actually good at FPS, using aimbots or enjoy a substantial amount of bunny hopping. I dont want to play another COD, I want to play Dust where my character and its abilities are unique to me, and my individuality as a merc has not been raped by a skill cap! YES ! Exactly ! The SP in EVE and Dust is limited, that's what makes them unique. That's why we need a SP cap in a way or another. Without it, anyone would just catch up with a veteran (SP wise) in no time. I don't wanna play another COD either. I do want my character skills and time combined with my own FPS skills to count.
Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 10:05:00 - [4] - Quote Deveshi wrote: I think you've missed the point of the SP cap. It is intended to bring n00bs on a closer par to vets whilst they are not playing as much. I fail to see how a SP cap in the current or proposed fashions promote individuality. The SP cap is intended to ONLY level the SP some ppl can get IF they started at the same time. It would not allow some n00b who start playing after 1 year to catch up with you. I would not even allow one who starts playing 1 month after you.
Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 11:14:00 - [5] - Quote So we agree that there is a need of a SP cap (in a way or other)? This is why we have the forum so we propose a SP cap model and a amount that would satisfy players (ofc we can't satisfy all of them but we can come up with one that could do it for most of them).
Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.30 07:17:00 - [6] - Quote Deveshi wrote: Lion Redstar wrote: So we agree that there is a need of a SP cap (in a way or other)? This is why we have the forum so we propose a SP cap model and a amount that would satisfy players (ofc we can't satisfy all of them but we can come up with one that could do it for most of them). No, i do not agree that there needs to be cap. This game is meant to be competitive! You really lost me, you seem to either contradict yourself or you don't fully understand how and why the SP cap is. Quote: What is beautiful about both Dust and EVE is that SP are limited and precious and as a result pretty much every character in EVE is different with strengths and weaknesses in different areas. Quote: With an SP cap to allow new players to catch up with vets you are basically putting everyone on a level playing ground and the only difference between characters will be if people are actually good at FPS, using aimbots or enjoy a substantial amount of bunny hopping. That is exactly what SP cap is NOT doing. The SP cap will prevent a new player to catch up with a veteran. If you don't get this, please explain me how do you think a new player will be able to catch up with a 1-2 years old veteran. Without the SP cap, the SP will be farmable and it will no longer be "precious".
Lion Redstar ZionTCD Legacy Rising 66	Posted - 2012.12.30 10:57:00 - [7] - Quote @Draco Dustflier: You definitively didn't played EVE Online. There is a SP cap there and still the game goes on from 2003. I started playing it in 2006 so I was "behind" 3 years. After 6 years of playing I am still "behind" those who started before me. Even with that ppl are still playing it. New players are joining everyday. No, the SP cap is not gonna kill DUST. If you think that then maybe for you would be better to follow your friends example because this is not something that is gonna go away. SP cap is good, it's just CCP that need to find a viable model (there are couple good suggestions in the Feedback/Requests forum).

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