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Vanda-Kon Feast On Skulls 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 01:55:00 - [1] - Quote I'm thinking of going solo if every game isn't a redline situation against corporations.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.12.29 01:59:00 - [2] - Quote I'd like to say it will be, but I would be lying. Even I will have to find a corp to adopt me eventually.
Nahtlog BetaMax. 16	Posted - 2012.12.29 02:00:00 - [3] - Quote I don't see why it wouldn't. Most corporations want to move on to bigger and better things, like Factional Warfare (FW) so we can take over planets and the like. This would likely clear up the pub stompings that are happening right now.
Cpt Murd0ck Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2012.12.29 02:03:00 - [4] - Quote I think it will be a good thing when the corps move onto bigger things as it will leave room for the noobs to kill each other in a "Safer" enviroment. But I am planning to join a corp eventully as I think the big battles once the corps have real power will be immense.
Washlee UnReaL. 131	Posted - 2012.12.29 02:13:00 - [5] - Quote If they don't extend squad sizes , not much to worry about.
Gaff Origami ZionTCD Legacy Rising 49	Posted - 2012.12.29 03:05:00 - [6] - Quote I think it's hard to say at this point. The whole point of Dust is to expand the Eve universe add another layer of complexity. I think Dust corporations will have more influence and therefore be more accepted into Eve as their usefullness becomes realized. No matter how good you are, 1 player playing in high sec matches and maybe some events won't really be all that noticeable within the Eve universe. I'm sure you can still get lots of kills and skill up your characters and buy high end gear and **** a lot of people off with your gun game and maybe occasionally end up in a good random squad with some team players but you probably won't feel apart of the Eve universe...if that's something that interests you.
Kovak Therim ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2012.12.29 03:12:00 - [7] - Quote CCP will most likely have some form of matchmaking so that proto players don't end up against some poor newb in militia gear. Good way to drive off customers.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 314	Posted - 2012.12.29 03:33:00 - [8] - Quote Tbh the way it's going NOPE
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2012.12.29 04:07:00 - [9] - Quote Kovak Therim wrote: CCP will most likely have some form of matchmaking so that proto players don't end up against some poor newb in militia gear. Good way to drive off customers. oh you mean like how it is now in the beta? Noobs going against tryhards in proto everything, and tanks, getting owned everywhere... you think new comers treating this beta like a true beta? Nope, it's a demo. New comers play a few games, get raped, then delete DUST off their HD and move on. Then you see them talking crap on every DUST article about how bad the game is. There's going to be a wipe, but let's face it, they not coming back.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 783	Posted - 2012.12.29 04:34:00 - [10] - Quote It totally is and will be viable. I personally have no intention of ever joining a player corp. There's no reason you need to, really. In the spirit of being totally freelance and playing with anybody & everybody, at any time, I salute you! Though, there is nothing stopping you from joining public channels of corporations with people you like and squadding up with them. I do that quite a bit. I'm not bound to any one corp but I can play with all of them! It's pretty sweet when you've got no silly rivalries or mistrust to work around :D Nothing stopping you from just running completely solo without a squad either. It's totally viable and you can meet some pretty awesome folks in team chat that way :) Everyone should solo pubs every so often!

Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 155	Posted - 2012.12.29 04:51:00 - [11] - Quote I was considering the idea of being a badass lone wolf battle-hardened veteran of the DUST battlefields. Then I realised there is a period between me as a newbie now and the scarred warrior I aim to become. This period I term the 'pubstomp days', where I get s**t on by squads who communicate and act like one unit instead of four people with similar coloured arrows on the map. So I personally decided Bojo's school would be the best option. I'm under no obligation to stay once I've learnt, so learn I will. I will learn the art of deception and kiting heavies. I will train it the methods of ADS without my fingers trembling. I will hone to perfection my logibro skills. I will not crash my dropships. Then, then I will leave school and acquire my ultimate goal. But until then I will hug my corp mates (totally a whooping one so far).
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2012.12.29 05:03:00 - [12] - Quote Its not completely out of the question to go lone wolf, I do it. But you probably will not become the top player often when alone. And the fact that you will be alone in a social game like this is....
Vanda-Kon Feast On Skulls 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 05:09:00 - [13] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Its not completely out of the question to go lone wolf, I do it. But you probably will not become the top player often when alone. And the fact that you will be alone in a social game like this is.... I've had plenty of games finishing top in pts playing as a lone wolf, and I consider myself a team player. The question is, will this change, where corporations can field more than a squad. Will there be incentives/individual contracts? As it stands now, I am not getting along with people in my corp or don't know them, so the social emphasis is overrated.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2012.12.29 05:09:00 - [14] - Quote IF you do LW it and your good you will have corps up your arse with requests for them to have you join. I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo for long because corps want good players
Vanda-Kon Feast On Skulls 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 05:13:00 - [15] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: IF you do LW it and your good you will have corps up your arse with requests for them to have you join. I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo for long because corps want good players Agree. I was invited to hellstorm. Not really working out.
Gunner Visari Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 163	Posted - 2012.12.29 05:14:00 - [16] - Quote As a ground grunt it should be feasible to be self sufficient but to be a vehicle operator you're likely going to need corp to help fund you for long term viability.
Vanda-Kon Feast On Skulls 66	Posted - 2012.12.29 05:15:00 - [17] - Quote Gunner Visari wrote: As a ground grunt it should be feasible to be self sufficient but to be a vehicle operator you're likely going to need corp to help fund you for long term viability. All ground game here.
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 168	Posted - 2012.12.29 06:23:00 - [18] - Quote Gunner Visari wrote: As a ground grunt it should be feasible to be self sufficient but to be a vehicle operator you're likely going to need corp to help fund you for long term viability. Not absolutely true. This guy loves to jump in a HAV and gun. When DSs are out in quantity again he hopes to get onto a DS crew on a more regular basis. My mic has finally arrived and this weekend I should get to be with my corp and voice. While this character is in a corp my others aren't. And one of them is aiming to be a pilot. HAVs and DSs cost but getting some gunners with mics doesn't have to mean a corp. Militia level HAVs and DSs are affordable enough. Once you have over 2-3M ISK in your pocket spending some on equipment doesn't bother me. Playing Skirmishes when the cap isn't blocking SP growth and building ISK when it is. Works for me currently. Quite frankly not all that many battles require a HAV or even a DS. DS pilots are getting SP starved anyway. At least the HAV pilot has a gun that gets kills by themselves. Picking up a squad and dropping them behind enemy lines gets you nothing. I like to lay down suppressive fire from a turret. I don't get many kills or points that way. But a third to half of the other side is totally focused on killing me; not defending their captured Null Cannons. My non-pilot/non-corp merc is doing fine. Focusing on straight Assault with a side dish of Heavy and some Logistics to get the noobs alive/repped and the clone count up. We will see what the next release or two is like. Since these characters are all headed for the Dust Bin (tm) then I will see what is up then.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2012.12.29 08:11:00 - [19] - Quote Vanda-Kon wrote: Enji Elric wrote: IF you do LW it and your good you will have corps up your arse with requests for them to have you join. I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo for long because corps want good players Agree. I was invited to hellstorm. Not really working out. Hey buddy, what time ya usually play?
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.12.29 12:50:00 - [20] - Quote there will be avenues for lone wolf types to etch out their own place but the benifits of running with a corp/alliance that has a grasp on the mechanics and enviroment of the universe as well as its members needs can take off the grind/slack of doing everything yourself. current game mode holds nothing special for anyone(lone wolf or corp) other than a savings account. when the main modes open up there will be other things worthy of being established with a good crew or solo.

Tenchu-13 What The French 76	Posted - 2012.12.29 14:28:00 - [21] - Quote Ionewolfing the game is a plausible option, but you won't get the most out of the 'experience'. I played solo for weeks trying out stuff and getting into the game. In the end you'll get the hang of it and you're gonna ask yourself if it is really all you want from the game. Go out in the world ( or in this case the few maps they have), get some decent skills. Any skills just find something you enjoy, then get good at it. In the end you'll get to a level where someone will notice you and send you invites. Except them but clearly state what you play. Try out some corps, team up with some different squats... in the end you'll probably stick to corps. (comming from someone who had the excact same idea you have.. going lw. all the way) Teaming up with some organized dudes is a totally different experience then teaming up with some random people...
Vanda-Kon Feast On Skulls 66	Posted - 2012.12.31 01:49:00 - [22] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: Enji Elric wrote: IF you do LW it and your good you will have corps up your arse with requests for them to have you join. I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo for long because corps want good players Agree. I was invited to hellstorm. Not really working out. Hey buddy, what time ya usually play? Both day and night. Will probably stay with the corp if I'm still welcome.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.12.31 02:00:00 - [23] - Quote I can't see any reason to lone-wolf in an MMOFPS unless you're planning to only play in the current match-made games.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 783	Posted - 2012.12.31 09:18:00 - [24] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I can't see any reason to lone-wolf in an MMOFPS unless you're planning to only play in the current match-made games. Not being in a player corp doesn't mean you're a lone wolf. It just means you're completely unaffiliated. Unaffiliated people can still be team players, it's just that they don't care who is on their team! :) I personally find it pretty rewarding to be able to play with people from all kinds of corps, and be able to piggyback into their corp battles and help them win :)
ZiwZih Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 54	Posted - 2012.12.31 09:35:00 - [25] - Quote Playing solo is/should be a viable option. Of course, in that case, some of the fruits that this game offers (when published) will stay hidden from you. Owning districts or planets, fighting for large and important assets that influence many in EVE might be out of reach to you. Tho, that is not necessary a bad thing. Many in EVE never fly a Titan, tho their gameplay is fulfilled. That is a beauty of New Eden -- there is a whole universe out there, you chose how and what you take of it. Let me give you my example. I am part of a corporation that is based on corporate/business model, not military. Inside my corp there are great freedoms as to how one is approaching the game; how much is one willing to participate, what is willing to offer (knowledge, skills) and what (responsibilities) to take. In Tritan Industries one might be just a trader and hauler on EVE-side and never even fight in DUST, or one may be the first on Leaderboards by most kills. Among other thing to consider, when choosing to go solo or find a group, is the way you play. My wife, for example, is a Heavy suit player. Tbh, I hardly can imagine how would that look like if there is no group to back her on long run. If you are a Pilot, again for example, you must calculate very good will freelancer taxi service or duty of blowing things up for unknown others be viable at all. Are you ready to spend n days grinding ISK with a suit you don't like just for a moment of GG? And even then, common sense says that some play-styles are made for group (and to be fun at all). In EVE I am mostly into exploration (so kinda lonewolfish) and in DUST I am a multi-purpose Scout. My play-style is solo, and even without communication with a team, I may benefit it greatly with various set-ups of my suits (even tho I am miserably low on skill-points). Usually I play solo public games with open comms, if I stumble upon someone who does the same. Saying this, doesn't mean I never play with my corp-mates, of course. And by finding me a corporation like TI I have basically opened myself the best of both worlds, so to say. If you are not neurotically afraid of 'polluting' your corp history, I'd say go give it a try. You can always go back to NPC tax collectors.
Tinodi Doomheim 39	Posted - 2012.12.31 09:43:00 - [26] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Kovak Therim wrote: CCP will most likely have some form of matchmaking so that proto players don't end up against some poor newb in militia gear. Good way to drive off customers. oh you mean like how it is now in the beta? Noobs going against tryhards in proto everything, and tanks, getting owned everywhere... you think new comers treating this beta like a true beta? Nope, it's a demo. New comers play a few games, get raped, then delete DUST off their HD and move on. Then you see them talking crap on every DUST article about how bad the game is. There's going to be a wipe, but let's face it, they not coming back. IIII don't think that's entirely fair. Matchmaking is hard to do effectively with such a small player pool. A lot of people don't even know this game exists at this point, much less willing to give it a go. When the game goes live, there should be a much larger pool to draw from than we have now, even if it doesn't do well, which should help immensely. Also, I don't think everybody is so childish in the face of difficulty. Sure, there's always sore losers who just complain non-stop or people who just legitimately want a fairly relaxed game that's easy to just pick up and win sometimes, but a lot of people want challenge; that's why they play. Lots of games leave off the CoD roflnoobpwners crowd and do just fine. tl;dr CCP needs to do their part, but I don't think it's all that bad, and it will get better over time as more players/development happens.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2012.12.31 10:14:00 - [27] - Quote Matchmaking should be by SP level for instant action merc games and in faction warfare. that way the nubs have a shot at not seeing a wall of proto. Corp matches in nullsec or lowsec? Absolutely not. if you accept contracts (not instant action) you get to hope you are either evenly or better equipped. you pays your money and takes your chances on contracts.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.12.31 15:15:00 - [28] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: IF you do LW it and your good you will have corps up your arse with requests for them to have you join. I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo for long because corps want good players empty souls is solo now? Hold up
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2012.12.31 15:29:00 - [29] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Enji Elric wrote: IF you do LW it and your good you will have corps up your arse with requests for them to have you join. I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo for long because corps want good players empty souls is solo now? Hold up Read harder Ydubs "I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo.."
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.12.31 21:25:00 - [30] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Enji Elric wrote: IF you do LW it and your good you will have corps up your arse with requests for them to have you join. I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo for long because corps want good players empty souls is solo now? Hold up Read harder Ydubs "I couldnt see players like empty souls or XxvicousxX being solo.." I read harder and it says "...being solo for long". The key words, "for long", implies that they are or were solo :D



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